Faith Restored

[drugsdr]

Huge thanks to Eathan and the rest of the RXmedical team for sending out payments.

On King Phen's advice I might just blow the money on a 17" Apple Powerbook, a Canon EOS digital SLR camera and a bunch of other stuff I've been thinking about but not yet purchased.

These days it's so easy for companies to take the money and leave affiliates out of cash. I've got another case of a company I had done business with for months short change me around $2,500 in payments. When I told them about it they basically said bad luck, get a lawyer and sue us if you want your cash. If you read this Bob Massa you are a dirt bag and I hope you rot in hell, but that is another matter.

When a company makes the efforts to live up to their word and pay affiliates what is owed you really should stick with them. So when everything is back to normal I fully intent to setup some ink cart sites with them and will also consider any other promotion they run. With luck they will come back with a medical program without controlled meds.

Thanks guys.

[King_Phen]

<Canon EOS digital SLR camera <


Other than the fact it has a plastic body, its a frekin nice unit.


>Bob Massa you are a dirt bag >


**cough**

[Gavin]

Huge thanks to Eathan and the rest of the RXmedical team for sending out payments.

On King Phen's advice I might just blow the money on a 17" Apple Powerbook, a Canon EOS digital SLR camera and a bunch of other stuff I've been thinking about but not yet purchased.

These days it's so easy for companies to take the money and leave affiliates out of cash. I've got another case of a company I had done business with for months short change me around $2,500 in payments. When I told them about it they basically said bad luck, get a lawyer and sue us if you want your cash. If you read this Bob Massa you are a dirt bag and I hope you rot in hell, but that is another matter.

When a company makes the efforts to live up to their word and pay affiliates what is owed you really should stick with them. So when everything is back to normal I fully intent to setup some ink cart sites with them and will also consider any other promotion they run. With luck they will come back with a medical program without controlled meds.

Thanks guys.


Does this mean no class action lawsuit?

[drugsdr]

Does this mean no class action lawsuit?


There was never a class action lawsuit! The was a post for affiliates to discuss the idea of one in the event of no payments from the company. Rxmedical came through 100% for us so there is no need to discuss this any further.

I'm not sure affiliates really understand the position that places like the RxAffiliateForum give affiliates. I've been running websites since 1997 and have come across a lot of companies who rip off 1000's of webmasters a few hundred or a few thousand dollars. They know that the cost of any legal action is going to be more than the affiliates are owed and nobody will do anything. So they take the money and run. But with forums like this one and others webmasters can unite together if needed and make sure justice is done.

Anyway this is getting off topic from what this thread is about. The subject is "Faith Restored" and the message is that RxMedical is one of the good guys and in my opinion affiliates should take note and stick with these guys on future projects because they have proved that they really do value affiliates in their organisation and they are prepared to look after them.

[Gavin]

To even bring up a class action lawsuit in the first place shows me you had very little faith in them. It is good to hear your little bit of "faith" is "restored".


They were two days late this time, maybe if next time they are three days late we can do a class action lawsuit and hire someone to break their legs.smileys/smiley8.gif

[redex]

Thank you Jesus!

[drugsdr]

To even bring up a class action lawsuit in the first place shows me you had very little faith in them. It is good to here your little bit of "faith" is "restored".


They were two days late this time, maybe if next time they are three days late we can do a class action lawsuit and hire someone to break their legs. smileys/smiley8.gif




Gavin, seeing and you really seem to want to discuss this... For all I care they can pay me 2 days late, 2 weeks late or 2 months late so long as they comminicate and let me know what's going on. The problem was communication and they addressed the communication problem within one week.

My faith was restored as soon as communication started again. I (obviously) don't like it or feel comfortable when somebody owes me a lot of money and they have for all intents and purposes disapeared from the face of the planet.

[phonehome]

a class action lawsuit in the first place shows me you had very little faith in them


Gavin, it's about business and contractual obligations, not faith. Faith is the act of believing in something you want to be true, but you have little or no evidence to support that belief. If you want to run a business on faith, might I suggest you sign up to my "how to be a millionare overnight" program. Entrance fee: $25,000. Have faith that I will deliver. Can I get a witness?


I'm glad to hear RXMedical will meet their obligation to all affiliates. It shows class.

[phonehome]

drugsdr said:




Bob Massa you are a dirt bag and I hope you rot in hell, but that is another matter


That name rings a bell. Is that the PRAdNetwork fella?


What's the story?

[afpro]

as a person who has also seen some companies force affiliates to chase their money around, it's good to see that RXMed is proactively working to pay up.


I, for one, will be very happy and comfortable doing business with RXMedical (or more accurately, the team behind RXMed), on any future projects.


Thanks again Eathan!

[FlippyOdegard]

Anyone seen any wires yet?

[RxRob]

I would have received my wire today also, but they ignored 4 emails that I sent to them, requesting wires. http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/smileys/smiley20.gif

[IWorkForFree]

no wire

[drugsdr]

I've got two wires today. I can't see the detail until tomorrow, but looking at the sizes I'm sure one is MPLLC and the other is Rxmedical.

I'm happy smileys/smiley1.gif

[chopsticks]

No wire for me yet. (And they had been instructed to NEVER send me a physical check, after they sent me one once rather than the wire transfer).

AND, I was the person who initially brought up the "Class Action Lawsuit" issue.


(Review my post on the topic and you'll see it was just mentioned as an aside; just as a potential path... because it would allow the court to hear the facts ONE TIME not have a bunch of different court cases in different places at different times)


HOWEVER, I must say that I've always been happy with RxMed/IMS-Rx in almost all things. Their recent 'blackhole' type of response and lack of pre-emptive communication being the major exception!


I'd gladly start sending traffic & sales back to them today if they changed their mind and started accepting our traffic again. smileys/smiley4.gif


And I definitely still want to be an affiliate for their Inkjet/Cartridge Printer program! (Have one of their templates online and promoted in the engines already! Of course it's a "dead end" site for the visiting customer since their is no backend affiliate provider. *doh!*)

[daweller]

Huge thanks to Eathan and the rest of the RXmedical team for sending out payments.

On King Phen's advice I might just blow the money on a 17" Apple Powerbook, a Canon EOS digital SLR camera and a bunch of other stuff I've been thinking about but not yet purchased.

These days it's so easy for companies to take the money and leave affiliates out of cash. I've got another case of a company I had done business with for months short change me around $2,500 in payments. When I told them about it they basically said bad luck, get a lawyer and sue us if you want your cash. If you read this Bob Massa you are a dirt bag and I hope you rot in hell, but that is another matter.

When a company makes the efforts to live up to their word and pay affiliates what is owed you really should stick with them. So when everything is back to normal I fully intent to setup some ink cart sites with them and will also consider any other promotion they run. With luck they will come back with a medical program without controlled meds.

Thanks guys.


I guess you are on the 'wire' plan.


I have not received my commission check yet... but I bet I'll get it soon, cause they seem like good folks smileys/smiley16.gif


With my whopping check, I am going to buy some delish lobster tails!smileys/smiley14.gif

[baqzid]

I do also want to get paid , still no wire .. smileys/smiley19.gif

[kurkapan]

I have recieved nothing yet either but let's hope they pay to their intl affiliates also...smileys/smiley3.gif

[kurkapan]

any inernational affiliate received its money?

[RxRob]

With my whopping check, I am going to buy some delish lobster tails!smileys/smiley14.gif





I'm going to give mine away to charity.

[chicago2]

no wire here. do we need to make a special request or something?

[mmarulkamm]

i received some wire but it's for the week before they stoped taking orders


no other money


they still owe me payment for 7 week this year

[kurkapan]

I recieved a sh*tty wire transfer for something like $150??? They still owe me about $3k..smileys/smiley7.gif

[redex]

i received some wire but it's for the week before they stoped taking orders


no other money


they still owe me payment for 7 week this year





Makes sense to me. The wire I received was for the week it was supposed to be for and paid at thee time it was supposed to be paid. We should expect one more wire for week 10 in the next few days I would imagine.

[kurkapan]

redex he means that ims hadn't paid him since new yearand now has sent him the last week's commission.And I also hadn't received my money for the last 3 weeks...smileys/smiley7.gif

[rx-spain]

I am international.....no checks yet


but in case Eathan reads this....they owe me maybe $2000 from October - December 2003, because they mailed checks to Mexico instead of Spain and they got lost....once Eathan was on it, (which took 5 eamils and several weeks) some 2004 checks 'started' coming through, but nothing to replace lost checks


I can't tell what I was owed Exactly from 2003, because the new stats (BEFORE) they closed back end only went back to January.....I can just guess from the gross order stats, whick luckily I copied

[redex]

All you international affiliates doing business with a US company should get US post office boxes. smileys/smiley8.gif

[baqzid]

I tried to contact rxmedicalone at 310-242-6741 about 25 times and noone answered and sometimes they closed the calls.Went to the bank and no money from them.What are they trying to do?To rob us?I want my money!smileys/smiley7.gif

[rx-spain]

All you international affiliates doing business with a US company should get US post office boxes. smileys/smiley8.gif





Redex,


Maybe, .....But I have checks from dozens and dozens of US companies with no problem, (plus bank wires and Paypal of course) the checksI promptly mail back to my USA bank account in the states, a PO box couldn't do that and things would be delayed and they normally arrive in 5-10 days, so NORMALLY no sweat.


Though I know lots of international affiliates haven't got a US account, but I am lucky

[redex]

I just heard a lot of international affiliate having check problems, getting thiem, cashing them, converting them to pesos, whatever. A US bank with a debit card is definitely a good way to go.

[tekken]

The US banks I have tried getting an account with wont let international ppl open accounts unlesswe visit the bank in person.

[RxRob]

....once Eathan was on it, (which took 5 eamils and several weeks).....





Oh my God! I'm shocked. smileys/smiley3.gif

[phalaris]

The US banks I have tried getting an account with wont let international ppl open accounts unlesswe visit the bank in person.





Try using one of the agent like valisinternational.com . A lot of people that I know from webhostingtalk.com have accounts at a bank in Delaware opened through that agent without any personal visit.

[kurkapan]

phalaris valisinternational has suffered so much fraud that it doesn't want to open accounts for eastern european customers..smileys/smiley11.gif

[phalaris]

phalaris valisinternational has suffered so much fraud that it doesn't want to open accounts for eastern european customers..smileys/smiley11.gif


Then there is no way to open an account for you. Try convincing valisinternational by paying them through wire transfer instead of credit card & Paypal.

[mmarulkamm]

redex put some mailbox in front of your home for me


i will pay you $50 a month


i wont to receive my playboy magazines there


unopened


ahaha


they still owe me money for 7 week


this money are realy important for me because i need them for bone marrow transplantation


it cost more than $100 000


if i don't collect this money i will die and i have to wait for reborne and than to start again with the op business


:)))


you thing i'm happy?


now i realy have cancer


22 years and thats all i got some stupid cancer


smileys/smiley7.gif


the only thing i wont is to live

[Steve]

My 2-pence, cents suck right now smileys/smiley7.gif


The best company I ever dealt with, withno equal is rxmed1, sure we had early day probs with wires etc, but got resolved.


If they come back...I would switch back no problem.


No consolationfor guys who are still waiting for payments I suppose, but hang in there.


I know it's no benefit to others, but I have been paid fully up-to-date, excepting the payment due on friday this week, which would only included sat to early mon when rxmed pulled the plug.


It may be tough on guys who did not meet the threshold payment, which I believe was $250.00 (I could be wrong on that) but anyhow obviously it will not carry over.

[drugsdr]

...excepting the payment due on friday this week, which would only included sat to early mon when rxmed pulled the plug.


Many affiliates will also have have a few grand in COD's also that should be comming in this friday or over the next few weeks.

[Steve]

Many affiliates will also have have a few grand in COD's also that should be comming in this friday or over the next few weeks.


Agreed, also carry over payments not seen in previous stats, but I can't log on to see thesesmileys/smiley19.gif

[Steve]

In monetary terms, based on average over the last 1-month, Iaverage 2k carried over to the next week.


I agree, my last payment was less than expected (based on carry over average)


But I don't know what actually went the final week,


I suppose I should have made a copy of stats, but even then you need bang up-to-date stats, which now is impossible.

[NewbiusMaximus]

Has anybody received their checks via snail mail yet? I haven't seen one from RxMed or IMS and I'm expecting well over 3k smileys/smiley19.gif...


thx

[PotentMix]

No check(s) so far.

[baqzid]

no check, no wire, no nothing smileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gif

[DaveM]

No surprise!

[kurkapan]

I hate when things go like that.Noone tells you what is going on and why aren't your money sent...I want my money...smileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gif

[Joe 90]

No checks here smileys/smiley19.gif

[Thinker]

No check here, but I'm not waiting for one either. A company that treated us like that at the end simply is not going to pay. Where is redex now with that "the checks aren't even late yet" sh**? Now they are late.

[PotentMix]

No check(s) today either.

[kurkapan]

I think they are trying to rip us with our commissions...smileys/smiley7.gif

[redex]

Checks here smileys/smiley16.gif

[ChesterCoperpot]

Redex you got a paper check? or wire?

[zendi]

redex which period is th check for ?

[fleet11]

No check yet either

[RxRob]

No check here. smileys/smiley21.gif

[RxCowboy]

NADA, nothing & zipola. If any one cares. PAY ME %#!*&%$!, Please!smileys/smiley6.gif

[RxRob]

Look on the bright side, ladies and gents. Next year it will be a tax write off. smileys/smiley4.gif

[kurkapan]

RxBob easy to say that...

[Mayen]

Look on the bright side, ladies and gents. Next year it will be a tax write off. smileys/smiley4.gif





You can't write off money you didn't make. It's not like you can take what they owe you and subtract it from your gross.You can only subtract the cost of doing business...unless you know something I don't. smileys/smiley2.gif

[Thinker]

Friday's mail!?! No check - how surprising.

[RxRob]

Look on the bright side, ladies and gents. Next year it will be a tax write off. smileys/smiley4.gif





You can't write off money you didn't make. It's not like you can take what they owe you and subtract it from your gross.You can only subtract the cost of doing business...unless you know something I don't. smileys/smiley2.gif





*edit*


You're right. Now, about that lawsuit....

[DaveM]

Hey Redex ... are the checks late yet?

[FlippyOdegard]

i want my money, is it fair everyone got paid wire tranfer, i not ? ? ?


F*CK!!!!!!!!!!!smileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gif





I didn't get my wire transfer.

[winfreecash]

no check, no wire

[redex]

Hey Redex ... are the checks late yet?


Nope. Not mine! smileys/smiley16.gif

[fleet11]

No money yet for me either.

[salesman]

Look on the bright side, ladies and gents. Next year it will be a tax write off. smileys/smiley4.gif





You can't write off money you didn't make. It's not like you can take what they owe you and subtract it from your gross.You can only subtract the cost of doing business...unless you know something I don't. smileys/smiley2.gif





If supppose you spent 1k on advertising and made zero the you are effectively taking the loss since it subtracts from your other income. If you spent zero to getyour traffic thenyou never lost anyway.

[phonehome]

If you spent zero to getyour traffic thenyou never lost anyway.


You're forgeting the cost of time, unless you consider your time to be worthless.

[pharmnet]

As soon as I get the $500 they owe me for my first and second week, I'll give them another try. It's one thing to loose $500, it's another thing to loose $5,000...

[RxRob]

Same here. Send me my dead presidents and I'll send some orders. smileys/smiley22.gif

[redex]

Send the orders, the dead guys are coming. Trust me smileys/smiley4.gif

[phonehome]

Send me my dead presidents and I'll send some orders


Yes, many affiliates feel this way.Once bitten, twice shy.


My cheque has yet to arrive. That should happen first.

[chopsticks]

Got my wire today / yesterday from Rx Medical. They had previously wired me my money just a few days behind schedule (as they said they would).


Now they've wired me again (back to their weekly Friday schedule it seems).


And, as far as I can tell they're totally paid up... but I can't be 100% sure since they aren't stats for me to compare (C.O.D./other orders where payment to them was still pending).


But, I'm stoked. Imagine a company that does what they've promised to do: pay their affiliates. smileys/smiley12.gif

[DaveM]

Glad to hear that you were taken care of chopsticks.


Now how about the rest of us?

[winfreecash]

Still waiting here too

[PotentMix]

Yep. Still waiting.

[phonehome]

still waiting. wondering if I should switch 'em all out to another supplier....

[PotentMix]

I' gonna give it 'til Tuesday.

[chicago2]

i have not been paid since all of this. I have also sent them quite a few sales this week too.

[kurkapan]

dave said they'll pay everything so don't worrysmileys/smiley16.gif

[killroy]

Dave didn't say anythign to me. He ignores IM sessions even though he's online, he ignores my emails... prior to this he even called me occassionally.

Could it be that they only will pay some affiliates?


SN

[DaveM]

You would have to agree that the continued lack of communication during the most critical time of trying to re-establish their credibility is somewhat disturbing. One would think that they would be going out of their way to communicate with their affiliates by email, forum or both. The continued silence on their part only creates hestitation when trying to decide whetherto turn their links back on or not.


Well that and the fact that they still owe me money!

[chopsticks]

Yep. I'd agree that their communication could be waaaay better. smileys/smiley11.gif


I'm new to the discussion board/forum here. I've never had experience with OPs offering public statements/interactions with their affiliates in a forum like this. Email only. And, I did received emails from them. Not as quickly as I would have liked (within the first 24 hours) but I did receive them (within 48-72 hours of them going down). Then they followed-up another day or two later to make sure I had got the email (since I guess many spam blockers stopped it).


I haven't started sending them traffic again since it seems like I JUST finished toggling stuff away from the.


I'm not TOTALLY comfortable with them either.... just reporting the facts (that I received my commission wires ALMOST on time even when they went down without warning; and I got the weekly Friday wire the other day).


Ofcourse there are others who don't have such "feel good" scenarios! One of my buddies got a rubber check from them. And he was/is pissed! smileys/smiley7.gifAnd he should be!

[winfreecash]

What surprises me MOST about all of this is that so many affiliuates seem not to care. How do you guys run a business like this. Every time an OP sees one of their kind pull a stunt like this and everyone goes right back to them, we open the door for the next guy to do it. THEY should be catering to US, not US to THEM. I can see OP business plans now:


Once a year shut down and screw affiliates out of sales and PPC money and refills


Say we sold out


Oh golly somebody stole all your refills, sorry


Screw affiliates out of a couple weeks of pay


Reopen with all the booty collected for ourselves for the supposed switch over time.

[redex]

Ahem, the title of this thread is "Faith restored" You guys need to start a new thread about bellyaching smileys/smiley8.gif

[gutterman]

Show me the faith,baby! Sunday would be a good day for some answered prayers(or emails)!

[DaveM]

Ahem, the title of this thread is "Faith restored" You guys need to start a new thread about bellyaching smileys/smiley8.gif


The point is "Faith Has Not Been Restored" for except a few. You may have gotten your wire and I am truely happy for you. But it could have easily been the other way around. They need to take care of ALL affiliates, then start with a clean slate if they wanted to be trusted. What do you tell Amex when the bill comes for advertising expenses; "I have blind faith that they will make good so just wait patiently like I am because they said they would". Yeah, that will fly!

[redex]

Welcome to the primary peril of self employment - CASH FLOW! smileys/smiley4.gif

[chopsticks]

redex: I agree.


Hell, even working for ENRON or MCI/WorldCom isn'tany guarantee anymore. People lost EVERYTHING (retirement [401k] plans, company stock plans, retirement packages, severence packages, etc.)

[chicago2]

what do you tell your landlord when you can't pay rent?

[killroy]

Redex, but you see, that is even MORE of a reason for them to give us something to trust. The real pros around here are all self employed in this venture of ours and most probably have no "day-time" job. For them it's even more crucial to get what ever meagere security is on offer. And currently I see better security elsewhere. It may not be real, but at least others are makign the effort...

Just the other day I came across a canadian pharmacy with boasted th "biggest payouts in the industry" at 4%, with 1% second tier and 3% on refills and "the only one givign you customers for life". Now wait a second, where have I read that before?

I don't give a rats ass about any of that, cos it's worthless if you don't get payed, or if the chances are 50/50 the business goes belly up any given day...

Give me some "Guaranteed payout security in case pharamacy closes", "Best effort to announce ALL major events BEFORE they happen" and "Keep your customers and refills if you ever choose to stop proomoting us"... Now THAT would draw in some pro promoters, don't you think?

Just something for RxMed to consider...


SN

[killroy]

Redex, but you see, that is even MORE of a reason for them to give us something to trust. The real pros around here are all self employed in this venture of ours and most probably have no "day-time" job. For them it's even more crucial to get what ever meagere security is on offer. And currently I see better security elsewhere. It may not be real, but at least others are makign the effort...

Just the other day I came across a canadian pharmacy with boasted th "biggest payouts in the industry" at 4%, with 1% second tier and 3% on refills and "the only one givign you customers for life". Now wait a second, where have I read that before?

I don't give a rats ass about any of that, cos it's worthless if you don't get payed, or if the chances are 50/50 the business goes belly up any given day...

Give me some "Guaranteed payout security in case pharamacy closes", "Best effort to announce ALL major events BEFORE they happen" and "Keep your customers and refills if you ever choose to stop proomoting us"... Now THAT would draw in some pro promoters, don't you think?

Just something for RxMed to consider...


SN

[chopsticks]

Kilroy: Its also something for others (myself included) to remember that any statements made by the company are legally "evidence" in any potential, current, or future legal action.


There is no guarantee that this industry (USA controlled med based AND/OR Canadian importation of non-controlled meds) is going to continue.


You want them to give you something to trust?!!? How they could do that I dunno. It's a matter of blind (stumbling) faith! They can't guarantee that they won't be raided by the Feds, their assets frozen entirely, or that some customer doesn't bring a lawsuit against them for millions of dollars (for wrongful death or pain & suffering, lost wages, medical & legal fees) that essentially equal the kiss of death.


I say all of this just to share my opinions that THIS AIN'T THE SAFEST OF MARKETS. And those who want safety in this "grey area" of legality/capitalism are on a never ending quest.


If you're a FULL TIMER on this, or if you have real "brick & mortar" obligations (wife, kids, rent, etc.) then you'd better be PROACTIVE in CYA (cover your ass).


We don't receive employee type of benefits. Not even temporary employee benefits. We dont' get private contractor types of legal agreements either. We have to pay our own health insurance, pay into our own retirement funds, and we have to manage our own cash flow/revenue streams!


So, "trust" would be a mistake of almost biblical proportions!


As in any business "until the check clears" (the bank).... one should be be extremely, and fundamentally, NON-trusting.


However, there is a difference in being trusting and being patient. There is a difference between "safety" and "security". There is a difference between "rapid expansion and unsustainable growth" and "stable, long-term economic viability" when it comes to business models. smileys/smiley12.gif

[redex]

Blind Faith - one of my favorite bands - "Can't find my way home" smileys/smiley8.gif

[killroy]

I "Grok" that. I've never been an employee, so I understand about hte absence of security. What I mean, if I was on the other side of the coin (RXMedical's) I'd play on exactly that. I'd take out an insurance on one months of estimated commission payments and fax a copy to potential super affiliates. I'd talk to them every day. I'd be honest about upcomming potential trouble and so on... I'd do what ever I can to gain what meagre trust might be on offer.

You see, all Dave ever said about my DIRECT enquireies as to how they're holding up to the legal threats and government regulation and FDA/DEA action was that they'Re 100% covered and their super system is super legal and works and cannot possibly ever be compromised.

No I'm not saying I beleived it, but right now my faith (to get back on topic) in them would be much better if he'd have simply said "We do our best, nobody can say for sure".

I think te problem is the perception by the pharmacies as to what brings in th eaffiliates. "Best commission in the industry" will bring in a volume of affilaites, but I think "Trustworthy business practices" would bring in the super affiliates.


SN

[phalaris]

For those who are complaining because of no payment or partial payments from RXM1/IMS I have a small piece of advice.


1. Don't expect to be paid every time you earn commissions through one of your sites. I know that because I am sitting on large number of bounced checks and then there were some cases when merchants disappeared before sending even a dude check. I expect that I will get paid around 85% to 90% of what I earn and rest 10-15% will be taken away by scumbag merchants every year on an average.


2. Don't spend the money on PPC that you afford to loose. That will keep you out of major troubles in case merchant being promoted by you disappears. We (the affiliates) tend to think that we are the foundation of a business that is being run by a merchants but merchants being promoted by us tend toact in an irresponsible manner to say the least about them. If you are spending your next month's rent on PPC then sooner or later you will land in trouble because that is the game called affiliate marketing.


I know it sounds too harsh but...

[DaveM]

Phalaris is absolutely correct.


In any business you own you will have losses either through vendors who don't pay or theft. 10 to 15% is actually conservative. I have a friend who owns a commercial roofing business who ends up writing off invoices for jobs like $150,000. Even if you get a judgement, there is still no guarantee you will ever see the money.


As Phalaris said, stay within a reasonable budget you can handle. That way if you do take a hit you will not go under.

[Bad Ass Rocker]

For those who are complaining because of no payment or partial payments from RXM1/IMS I have a small piece of advice.


1. Don't expect to be paid every time you earn commissions through one of your sites. I know that because I am sitting on large number of bounced checks and then there were some cases when merchants disappeared before sending even a dude check. I expect that I will get paid around 85% to 90% of what I earn and rest 10-15% will be taken away by scumbag merchants every year on an average.


2. Don't spend the money on PPC that you afford to loose. That will keep you out of major troubles in case merchant being promoted by you disappears. We (the affiliates) tend to think that we are the foundation of a business that is being run by a merchants but merchants being promoted by us tend toact in an irresponsible manner to say the least about them. If you are spending your next month's rent on PPC then sooner or later you will land in trouble because that is the game called affiliate marketing.


I know it sounds too harsh but...





I'm not irritated about not getting commissions/bounced checks - It's the fact that many others have been paid and checks have cleared, yet I'm still waiting. If they could just say, "Yes, you're getting paid, now" or, "No, you're not getting paid, ever" would make a large difference to me. That way, my faith could be restored in rxmed - or faith could be restored in that they are no good.

[IWorkForFree]

your friend needs to put leins on properties and collect payments before his jobs are completed. that is way too much for a business to weather, even if he does $10mill in sales. the lien will keep the non=payers from selling the property without paying him first