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pharm_boy
March 19th, 2004, 01:48 PM
Dear Affiliates,
As you are aware, RXMedical Network stopped accepting orders March 8<SUP>th </SUP>and closed operations.
The Company has since been dissolved and acquired by a new entity.
We apologize for any lack of communication in in letting you know the current status of the company. Please rest assured that the new entity is fully committed to compensating you, our trusted affiliates, for all past and prior commissions.
It is their intent to maintain and grow upon the relationships we were able to establish with each of you, such that they can continue to have a valued partnership with you in the future. Stay tuned for further announcements and thank you for your patience during this transition.

Thank you,
The RxMedical Team

RxRob
March 19th, 2004, 01:54 PM
Sweet! Another offshore corporation/smokescreen.


Hey, whatever it takes to keep the gears turning, right?LOL smileys/smiley8.gif

PotentMix
March 19th, 2004, 02:01 PM
Hmmm... So now we have to look to someone else to get paid? That wasn't what we were lead to believe. Have we been misled? Just asking.

Swede
March 19th, 2004, 02:02 PM
HMU...!? At least turnkeyrx handles the affiliate program for thedrugoutlet, http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2861&amp (http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2861&amp;PN=1) ;PN=1


Solid biz we're in smileys/smiley8.gif

phalaris
March 19th, 2004, 02:20 PM
I just hope that this "new entity" is not HMU in any shape.

DaveM
March 19th, 2004, 02:27 PM
Hey Eathan,


Rest assured that we are fully committed to collecting all of our past and prior commissions!


As a sign of good faith, why not open the back end up so everyone can see their stats? Especially since our links are now going to an active order form. You are taking orders right?

FlippyOdegard
March 19th, 2004, 02:50 PM
pharm_boy
Please rest assured that the new entity is fully committed to compensating you, our trusted affiliates, for all past and prior commissions.


Uh, when? You told us that it would be this week. It's Friday now. I haven't seen my wire that was due last Friday.


I hate all of this secrecy crap. When will any of these OPs just come right out and say what's going on in plain English? I don't want to hear about an "entity" taking over, I want to know who...and really, why? It's effin' ridiculous.

King_Phen
March 19th, 2004, 03:09 PM
&gt;You are taking orders right?


Sure looks that way.

winfreecash
March 19th, 2004, 03:20 PM
This company is so screwed up. What about affiliates that DON"T read this forum? Also, I just got a prescription refill for one of my own meds and directs me to Pharmical!!


Time to refill your prescription.

Our records indicate that the order you placed with pharmical.com on 10/12/03 forXXXXXXXXXX (90 day supply) needs to be refilled.

Don't miss a day! Click here to refill your prescription today! (http://www.pharmical.com/product.cfm?id=62)

Thank you for your patronage.

The Customer Service Team


<HR>



If you'd prefer that we stop sending you refill reminders on future orders, click here (http://www.pharmical.com/unsubscribe.cfm?uid=sales@iwindomains.com&amp;type=RMD ).

overdose
March 19th, 2004, 03:25 PM
looks like it, pharmical.com is backup and running with the original order form.

winfreecash
March 19th, 2004, 03:27 PM
looks like it, pharmical.com is backup and running with the original order form.


And getting all our refills!!

phalaris
March 19th, 2004, 03:38 PM
Order forms on rxordersys.com are also back up but order forms for IMS are still down. Looks like design of the order form has changed.

FlippyOdegard
March 19th, 2004, 03:40 PM
Interesting how all of our stats have disappeared.

redex
March 19th, 2004, 04:30 PM
I am getting cookie blocked warnings and the SSL cert was installed on rxordersys.com instead of www.rxordersys.com (http://www.rxordersys.com) so the SSL warning popup is there too when your page reads the .js file. Musta moved it all to a new box, looks like. smileys/smiley5.gif

phalaris
March 19th, 2004, 04:41 PM
Rxordersys.com is now pinging to 65.59.187.12 which is owned by Level3. They were hosted at rackspace.combefore March-08.

RxRob
March 19th, 2004, 05:14 PM
rxmedicalnetwork.com is now registered to someone in Costa Rica. When I think of Costa Rica, I think of dpillz from this forum.


Hey dpillz, did you buy RXMedical? smileys/smiley1.gif

RxRob
March 19th, 2004, 05:35 PM
Hmmm... So now we have to look to someone else to get paid? That wasn't what we were lead to believe. Have we been misled? Just asking.


I am willing toforget aboutmy commission, in exchange for$20 off each of my base prices smileys/smiley4.gifsmileys/smiley4.gifsmileys/smiley4.gif

overdose
March 19th, 2004, 05:35 PM
another hint for us affiliates moving offshore? funny how they put that 800 number there.


so, we still game?

jackmack
March 19th, 2004, 05:47 PM
Eathan, your sig is still the same. Does this mean you are still
the Affiliate Manager?

What happened to our stats; will they be back soon?

winfreecash
March 19th, 2004, 05:52 PM
and why are our refills going to Pharmical.com ??? How about some answers here?

chopsticks
March 19th, 2004, 05:58 PM
The EquiFax Secure Site Certificate was JUST installed/become live.


RxOrderSys.com
Secure Site Cert valid from: 3/20/04 to 3/21/05

AND, I'm able to access my IMS prices. Just substitute your IMS affilaite ID for the RxOrderSys one. Just playing around but the prices are obviously tied into the affiliate ID. (no guarantees of the order going through, but my previously configured prices for IMS load via the RxOderSys.com site!) smileys/smiley2.gif


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ims-rx.com
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rxordersys
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CR
Phone - 800-555-1212
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pharmical.com
65.59.187.11


Rx Order Sys
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San Juse, 89109
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San Jose, 89109
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******
rxmedicalnetwork.com
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Rx Ordersys: postmaster@rxordersys.com
rxordersys
Sabana Sur
San Jose, 89109
CR
Phone:: 800-555-1212
Fax


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rxordersys.com
65.59.187.12


Rx Order Sys
Sabana Sur
San Juse, 89109
CR


Rx Ordersys: postmaster@rxordersys.com
rxordersys
Sabana Sur
San Jose, 89109
CR
Phone- 800-555-1212
Fax-


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cdc71
March 19th, 2004, 06:00 PM
Boy... I sure would like to know WTF is going on!


I got a "time to reorder" e-mail from Pharmical.com today too...


Eathan? Throw us a bone here!smileys/smiley4.gif

chopsticks
March 19th, 2004, 06:09 PM
IMS back up (primary/login site) has a new look-n-feel once you login.


smileys/smiley12.gif

dpillz
March 19th, 2004, 07:38 PM
rxmedicalnetwork.com is now registered to someone in Costa Rica. When I think of Costa Rica, I think of dpillz from this forum.


Hey dpillz, did you buy RXMedical? smileys/smiley1.gif




ohm ... no :)

would be happy but no .. i did not ....also i do not have any idea who it might be .....

daweller
March 19th, 2004, 09:56 PM
Can some of you please do some test orders off my website please,


I need to see if my old links work...


The benefit is that you will know through me if the orders work :)


Nothing crazy, maybe just a few 90 counts of Meridia...


Thanks superfriends.

baqzid
March 20th, 2004, 01:52 AM
My rxmedicalnetwork account stats :



<TABLE border=0 cellPadding=3 cellSpacing=0 width=575>
<T>
<TR bgColor=#bbbbee>
<TD class=V12BoldBlack>Dates : 02/13/2004 to 03/20/2004 </TD>
<TD align=right class=v12BoldBlack>Traffic to Sales Ratio : 0.00% </TD></TR></T></TABLE>





I had 70+ orders, 3,300$+ commisions ( without COD orders) now that realy sucks

redex
March 20th, 2004, 02:31 AM
and why are our refills going to Pharmical.com ??? How about some answers here?


Exploiting the affiliate's customer list is not a good way to start a relationship?

dsales
March 20th, 2004, 07:39 AM
My rxmedicalnetwork account stats :



<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=575><T>
<T>
<TR bgColor=#bbbbee>
<TD class=V12BoldBlack>Dates : 02/13/2004 to 03/20/2004 </TD>
<TD class=v12BoldBlack align=right>Traffic to Sales Ratio : 0.00% </TD></TR></T></T></TABLE>





I had 70+ orders, 3,300$+ commisions ( without COD orders) now that realy sucks





smileys/smiley25.gifDo they really expect us to sell for them without getting our past due?

fleet11
March 20th, 2004, 07:50 AM
I, just like you guys want my money and would like to know what exactly is going on. I have been sitting quietly on the sidelines and watching and this is what I think is going on.


RxMed was treading on thin ice with the Gov and knew they had to make some changes orrisk being shut down. It appears as if they opted to be proactive and identified a legal loophole, transferred corporations (same owners) to clean the path, and created offshore bank accounts so they cannot be seized. They are just laying the ground work so they can come back and not be hassled with all the b.s. legalities of running an online O.P. The site is back up as it was before and they are ready to make money. I think we can all say that RxMed has been the best company to work with because they invest in technology, staff and convert sales like no other. I think they were forced to change gears and due to the nature of the change could not disclose much info to the affiliates. When their site went down it did not say "closed for business", it said "we are no longer accepting orders".


RxMed has been thetop online O.P. program and has thebest affiliates working for them. No business in their right mind whoplans on staying in business would want to piss off most of the top affiliates in the business.


My verdict is that they will pay all of us and don't worry about your stats. We will most likely be starting with a new slate due to legal reasons. It's not like we have had sales in the past two weeks anyway. We all know where we were.


Let's just chill for a little longer and they will lay out the new groundwork for us. Believe me they want us back on, every day we are not with them they are losing money and they know it. The good news is that the site is back up and that means we all are most likely going to be back in business real soon.

DMMailer
March 20th, 2004, 08:10 AM
I, just like you guys want my money and would like to know what exactly is going on. I have been sitting quietly on the sidelines and watching and this is what I think is going on.


RxMed was treading on thin ice with the Gov and knew they had to make some changes orrisk being shut down. It appears as if they opted to be proactive and identified a legal loophole, transferred corporations (same owners) to clean the path, and created offshore bank accounts so they cannot be seized. They are just laying the ground work so they can come back and not be hassled with all the b.s. legalities of running an online O.P. The site is back up as it was before and they are ready to make money. I think we can all say that RxMed has been the best company to work with because they invest in technology, staff and convert sales like no other. I think they were forced to change gears and due to the nature of the change could not disclose much info to the affiliates. When their site went down it did not say "closed for business", it said "we are no longer accepting orders".


RxMed has been thetop online O.P. program and has thebest affiliates working for them. No business in their right mind whoplans on staying in business would want to piss off most of the top affiliates in the business.


My verdict is that they will pay all of us and don't worry about your stats. We will most likely be starting with a new slate due to legal reasons. It's not like we have had sales in the past two weeks anyway. We all know where we were.


Let's just chill for a little longer and they will lay out the new groundwork for us. Believe me they want us back on, every day we are not with them they are losing money and they know it. The good news is that the site is back up and that means we all are most likely going to be back in business real soon.























If this is true they sure have done a poor job of keeping us informed. Why not just let the affiliates know what is going on instead of crashing and burning, slow paying, (if indeed they do), and taunt us with this Costa Rican company? I will remain optimistic but their slimy exit and non-communication has not impressed me so far.

fleet11
March 20th, 2004, 10:03 AM
I am not disagreeing with you, nor am I trying to defending them. I am just trying to put myself in their shoes. All of this probably came about quickly and taking on a major reorganization is no simple task. Their energy has probably been focused on getting back online so they can get back to making money. Considering what they had to do I think they have done a good job getting back online quickly. The communication has sucked but maybe their are legal reasons for not keeping us in the loop. Whatever the reason all the pieces are coming together and I hope it is for the better.

chopsticks
March 20th, 2004, 10:28 AM
Yeah, I agree. They were trying to get back online quickly (and they paid me the vast majority of commissions almost always on time; only slight delays for the wire transfer).


I noticed that they've changed their payout model.


From the FAQ (onced logged into the backend) --


How often do I get paid?
We issue payments once a month.

<A name=Question2></A>When can I expect my payment?
We begin to process payments on the 10th of each month. Payments usually go out within one or two business days, but in some cases may be a bit longer. If you have not received your payment within 10 business days, please contact us.

<A name=Question3></A>What is the minimum payout?
There is no minimum payout, nor a maximum payout either.

chopsticks
March 20th, 2004, 10:31 AM
Hmmm. But then the FAQ from the frontpage of of RxMedicalNetwork says:
<A class=bluelinks>How often will my commissions be paid?</A>
<DIV class=text>Weekly, one week in arrears. The commission period runs from Saturday through Friday, and commissions are sent out (via wire or mail) on the Friday of the following week. (for example, If Saturday was the 1st of a month, commissions earned from Saturday the 1st through Friday the 7th would be sent out on Friday the 14th.) </DIV>
<DIV class=text></DIV>
<DIV class=text></DIV>
<DIV class=text>So I'm not sure. Will send 'em a quick email to determine if it's monthly or weekly.</DIV>

FlippyOdegard
March 20th, 2004, 10:32 AM
&lt;snipped&gt; Ooops, beaten by one minute. :)





ETA - The site has always had both FAQs, but they paid weekly.

chopsticks
March 20th, 2004, 10:36 AM
ahh. one minute!smileys/smiley14.gif

PotentMix
March 20th, 2004, 10:40 AM
If its monthly, that's too risky for affiliates in this business. You could conceivably build up almost a month and a half of commissions, and if they go out of business, then you're going to be out a lot more money than would be the case with weekly payments. And, as we know, OPs going out of business is a huge risk for affiliates these days.

phalaris
March 20th, 2004, 10:41 AM
I believe everyone who signed up forwires has received one. Those who are waiting for the paper checks may have to wait for a little longer for the offshore accounts to be setup. Remember the long threads on late paymentor no paymentfrom HMU 3-4 weeks following the switchover from EVA to HMU?

RxRob
March 20th, 2004, 10:49 AM
<DIV class=text></DIV>
<DIV class=text>Will send 'em a quick email to determine if it's monthly or weekly.</DIV>
<DIV class=text></DIV>





Send 'em a "slow boat to China" email. You want get a response, anyway. smileys/smiley6.gif

PotentMix
March 20th, 2004, 10:59 AM
The faqs clearly state "monthly". If they stay with this, I'm not going to promote them heavily.Far too risky. They'll have a tough time competing with the weekly payers unless there's a conspiracy among them all to switch to monthly.


Of course, if they're controlled by the same entity or entities, they'll manage to get away with it. Hmmm... I wonder.

pharm_boy
March 20th, 2004, 11:47 AM
Guys and Gals,


The systems just started coming back online Friday. It's a new company and there are bound to be issues. This is not a flip of a switch we're talking about.


At the same time, nothing went outsuggesting you turn traffic back or start up old PPC campaigns. That should be a fair indication that we know things aren't 100% just yet. All these systems need some handholding over the next day or two to get running smooth again.


Refill reminder notifications need to be sorted out. A day or two of refill reminders shouldn't affect a great number of sales, norshould thenew SSL being set up on rxordersys.com rather than www.rxordersys.com (http://www.rxordersys.com)after two weeks of downtime. These are bumps in the road,twice as frustrating I'm know, as they'reexacerbated by other recent issues.


It will likely take acouple days to bring all the systems back online to original plus new specs.


The FAQ discrepency is an old issue, one that was fixed in the past. It looks like an older version of the page was brought back. Payments will, I'm sure, remain weekly.


If you continue to look closely over the next couple days, you'll likely find more nagging questions. Most will be symptomatic of bringing the systems back online, but we are working with the new company to get things up and running as smooth and as quickly as possible.


Thank you,

afpro
March 20th, 2004, 11:51 AM
thanks for the update Eathan!


just got a sales notification from some old links, I guess....welcome back!


sean

ChesterCoperpot
March 20th, 2004, 12:07 PM
Eathan, will our old stats be updated in the new back end? Or are they lost?


Thanks

redex
March 20th, 2004, 12:27 PM
Thanks for keeping us posted Eathan


(and making me go look in the dictionary) LOL


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overdose
March 20th, 2004, 12:31 PM
what happened to the "seamless transition"? smileys/smiley8.gif


soEathan, who's the new company?

RxRob
March 20th, 2004, 12:44 PM
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tmittleman
March 20th, 2004, 12:45 PM
I noticed that pay monthly/weekly thing mentioned both ways on their site before they went offline. When I saw it, I thought I'd start getting checks monthly, but always got them weekly. Still got some while they were offline and cashed them with caution that they may bounce, but so far so good. I've been testing a couple other programs and they are just not converting yetthe way RX did. I hope it's the same people and we can get past all of this crap. At least I have some back up programs now, but they pail in comparison. Loosing the refill orders was really crappy and I'd like a real explanation as to why. If they want all their affiliates back, they should still honor those. I'm sure if we see those checks still comming in, we'll all come back.


I've always heard that the top affiliates make up the bulk of sales and they make upsomething like 2% of all the affiliates. I wonder what would define the top affiliates as. Does anybody know what the highest paid affiliates make? I'll take a stab at it, but I'd like to hear what you guys feel the breakdown should be.


Whales $50K - Higher/mo
Big Fish: $10k -50k/mo
Medium Fish: $5k-10/mo
Little Fish: $1k-5k/mo
Minnows: $100-1k/mo
Pond Algae: $1-100/mo

baqzid
March 20th, 2004, 01:06 PM
<H1>cool, we heard Eathan. So i am new in business, i never recieved a commision from RDMed1 but i started with them till they stoped recieving orders, i made some $ , i don't know if i must recieve a cheque or wire, i sent them couple of emails asking to send me wire instead of cheque, and the only answer i recieved was 'it is possible'. Here comes the question Are the international affiliates going to get paid, and how can i recieve wire instead of cheque ? </H1>


(sorry for the bold font )

kurkapan
March 20th, 2004, 01:10 PM
baqzid there is another question to be added "and when?"smileys/smiley11.gif

pharm_boy
March 20th, 2004, 01:16 PM
Sales generated from the re-order emails pointing to Pharmical are being corrected.


Data associated with each customer has an associated affiliateID on their prior order. Though this ID was not passed to Pharmical from the email, it is being retrieved from past customer data and associated with the orders.


The FAQ in the back end stating monthly payouts is WRONG.


The new company will announce the program being open for business onceeverything is ready to go.

FlippyOdegard
March 20th, 2004, 01:41 PM
I believe everyone who signed up forwires has received one. Those who are waiting for the paper checks may have to wait for a little longer for the offshore accounts to be setup. Remember the long threads on late paymentor no paymentfrom HMU 3-4 weeks following the switchover from EVA to HMU?


No, that's not true. I did not receive my wire.


ETA - My last payment was
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baqzid
March 20th, 2004, 02:16 PM
pharm_boy would you be so kind to answer our questions regarding payment ?

redex
March 20th, 2004, 02:17 PM
smileys/smiley8.gif


I am sure he would if he knew. He stated that you will be paid. What's wrong with that statement? Huh?

baqzid
March 20th, 2004, 02:21 PM
after almost all affiliates got paid i became little nervous smileys/smiley7.gif

killroy
March 20th, 2004, 04:58 PM
Hmm jsut got an orders with $6 commission... looks like prices went up... uh, it's true, I actually have negative commission on some items!!! and the $10 on a free-shipping item... is that international shipping??


SN

redex
March 20th, 2004, 05:34 PM
They are not ready to accept orders. You may be jumping the gun a little, losing orders, customers, commissions or all three.


Patience, Grasshopper!

DEWIE42
March 20th, 2004, 05:44 PM
Patience, Grasshopper!Omgawd that is toooooooooooooooo funny!smileys/smiley8.gif

killroy
March 20th, 2004, 06:09 PM
Hehe. No worries... I had moved my main site to MPLLC already... just when the system came back I saw referals from stray links, and those now resulted in sales... That site is harder to change, so I won't bother. Just keeping it to see how things go.


SN

Joe 90
March 21st, 2004, 04:18 PM
smileys/smiley8.gif


I am sure he would if he knew. He stated that you will be paid. What's wrong with that statement? Huh?





What's wrong is there's no answer as to when we'll get paid.


Redex please stop sticking up for them, you got paid, ok, but some of us didn't. I'm sure if you'd received a rubber check from them you'd be more pissed off then we are.


I'm sorry to harp on about this but this is how I make my living and if I'm getting orders, I expect to be paid my commission. How can I be expected tokeep my wife, mistresses, 17 children, hamster, and a small tribe in Africa all fed if I'm not getting paid?

Gavin
March 21st, 2004, 04:26 PM
smileys/smiley8.gif


I am sure he would if he knew. He stated that you will be paid. What's wrong with that statement? Huh?





What's wrong is there's no answer as to when we'll get paid.


Redex please stop sticking up for them, you got paid, ok, but some of us didn't. I'm sure if you'd received a rubber check from them you'd be more pissed off then we are.


I'm sorry to harp on about this but this is how I make my living and if I'm getting orders, I expect to be paid my commission. How can I be expected tokeep my wife, mistresses, 17 children, hamster, and a small tribe in Africa all fed if I'm not getting paid?





I agree with Redex. Quit bitching.You'll get paid in due course.

PotentMix
March 21st, 2004, 05:39 PM
They are not ready to accept orders. You may be jumping the gun a little, losing orders, customers, commissions or all three.


Redex, are you saying that the order form is just for play, not for real right now? Please elaborate. I thought they were back in business.


That's why the buyer needs to communicate directly, clearly and in detail with affiliates so that confusion is kept at a minimum. smileys/smiley5.gif

salesman
March 21st, 2004, 05:47 PM
Eathan told me this weekend they have not made an announcement yet. He is not even sure what the new status is. They may not be quit ready. Who knows they might adust prices they might not. He advised me to standbye until early this week and see what the announcement is.


I did notice they raised prices on a couple drugs. If they were ready it seems to me they would send us all an email saying start marketing. It seems obvioious that as soon as they were ready the would want orders ASAP and would inform us. If you are running and they adjust I hope your new commisions isn't inside these ( ). smileys/smiley4.gif

PotentMix
March 21st, 2004, 08:37 PM
Why on earth would they put up a fully functional order page if they're not taking orders? This is frustrating.

salesman
March 21st, 2004, 08:41 PM
I don't know. I just decided I can wait a couple days rather than gamble. If I see orders ship on Monday then I guess they are up.

PotentMix
March 21st, 2004, 09:10 PM
Point is, we shouldn't have to be guessing.

chopsticks
March 22nd, 2004, 03:28 AM
this is a competitive industry &amp; everyone wants a headstart, or at least a equal start, with others in the foot race


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I got paid, and yes I'd be pissed if I wasn't. But I had written off those commissions as "lost" (due to my pessimistic nature), instantly toggled my traffic elsewhere and continue on.


I should be careful with what I post around here.


I mentioned a "class action" lawsuit, ONCE,in order to have the facts heard ONCE in one legal action (rather than individual lawsuits). BUT, I posted that prior to them even being late on my payments; then they made a formal statement -- and my wire transfer came in just a few days later.
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then i posted a messgae that said "they're back"... and it lead to a semi-feeding frenzy here with the Rx Sharks.


if you have to GUESS / Reverse-Engineer their backend then it should be obviuosly that you're doing research not eBusiness.


the fact that they have a working backend is normal for those of us who are information technology experts. it's called the BETA test. (alpha being just the 'first draft' from the techeis, beta being the 'second' or more polished - yet still buggy version)


just 'cause the system is up doesn't mean its live (or "golden")


sorry if this seems "superior" or something. But )(*#$()#*!@ I haven't been around this forum all that long -- but it seems to be populated by people who have a lot of "issues".


i've seen better organized monkey sh*t fights @ the zoo!

PotentMix
March 22nd, 2004, 10:15 AM
Yeah - That's pretty arrogant. If its a beta, they should inform us. Again, its all guesswork. The new owners may be scoring points with some of you, but notwith me. I'm inclined to pass on doing anything more than what I have up currently with these folks.

overdose
March 22nd, 2004, 11:21 AM
hmm... beta... funny to see all the"beta" low ballersback in a rush.


live goes on, Potent, gotta work on what's best for ourpersonal interest with dignity. nobody likes to be mistreated, just glad that I made some changes during the weekend, now let's see...

chopsticks
March 22nd, 2004, 11:29 AM
PotentMix: I think that's logical &amp; totally acceptable. If they haven't totally impressed you (or you don't trust them) then don't get more involved with them.



They NEVER made a public statement about the sysyem coming back online. Some of us just noticed that their domains had been transferred and/or their DNS servers updated. Then we started poking around and realized that we could access parts of the system (by pointing the new IP addresses of the servers, etc.)



Again, they NEVER said anything about anything relative to new orders.So yes, its guesswork!


But a lot of people here seem to be INTO guesswork and speculation. Many peole seem to be getting ramped up to send traffic BACK to them.


They shouldn't have to inform anyone of anything other than what they did:


A) They're not taking new orders
B) They're going to pay commissions due

So for anyone anything at all(other than what was mentioned in their public statement) IS, by definition, guesswork.


I'm not trying to be arrogant -- but I am confident. If you're have better places to send traffic (as I do) then its not important if/when they're back in the game at all.


Otherwise you're guessing. And its obvious that not everyone wants to (or feels confident with their ability to) guess.

killroy
March 22nd, 2004, 11:52 AM
Looks like that dropped that extra $10 shippping charge, finally... that was a bit silly.

SN

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March 22nd, 2004, 12:46 PM
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They are ALPHA TESTING





You will be invited to beta test soon. smileys/smiley4.gif

fleet11
March 22nd, 2004, 01:12 PM
I just received notice that I had earned two commissions. Apparently they are accepting orders. I guess we will see if they are going to make a formal statement soon.


When I check my stats it only shows one order/sale. The one that is present is a reorder. I wonder if they are only taking reorders at this point or if they are actually taking orders from anyone.

chopsticks
March 22nd, 2004, 01:29 PM
Yeah, I just (within the last 15-20 minutes) received 2 email commission notifications myself. smileys/smiley3.gif


Both are marked within the system as being entered on 3/20/04... and both are refills. One had free shipping ($0.00) and the other had standard ($18) shipping.


So yes, I think they're only taking re-orders at this time. (Their final one-liner website message was that they weren't taking orders; so I guess re-orders are fair game.)


Glad to see the credit hit my account for the refills. smileys/smiley14.gif

redex
March 22nd, 2004, 01:32 PM
Glad to see the credit hit my account for the refills. smileys/smiley14.gif





Do you think you will get paid for them?


(sorry, couldn't resist - that's why I have an "AH" in my sig) LOL

phalaris
March 22nd, 2004, 02:19 PM
I'm also seeing a couple of sales notifications from IMS in last 1-2 hours.

chopsticks
March 22nd, 2004, 02:48 PM
Redex: No I don't think I'll necessarily get paid for 'em (I'm a pessimist!)... but I didn't think I'd get my weekly wire from 'em either...and I did; so now I'm cautiously optimistic.smileys/smiley2.gif

phalaris
March 22nd, 2004, 02:51 PM
Drugs for Sale (http://www.drugs-for-sale.com/)
Why pay more!?


Trying to advertise Bob's new venture through backdoor? smileys/smiley2.gif


Edited to add:


I typed D-O-U-G's (withouthyphens) and it is appearing as Bob's. Thanks admin.

PotentMix
March 22nd, 2004, 02:54 PM
Yep. Now I have one pending shipping. Can we assume this is not just make believe?

Bad Ass Rocker
March 22nd, 2004, 11:15 PM
smileys/smiley8.gif


I am sure he would if he knew. He stated that you will be paid. What's wrong with that statement? Huh?





I'm sure that the credit card companies, electric companies, etc. will understand, give you a break and emulate with you when you tell them that you don't have the money you owe them, andyou don't know when you'll get paid, butyou do "know that you'll get paid". So don't worry, you can pay them "later"...

Bad Ass Rocker
March 22nd, 2004, 11:18 PM
Yep. Now I have one pending shipping. Can we assume this is not just make believe?


I have one order that is beyond "pending", beyond "shipped", and is "settled", but my total commission reads a wonderful, "$0.00"

tmittleman
March 23rd, 2004, 01:18 PM
I see a couple new orders and a couple re-orders.. some settled... and I see commissions on all. The check will be the final proof I guess but it looksalive and kicking to me!


Anyone know about the ink program they had?Are you guys seeing orders from it? They went offline right when I was ready to get going. I'd like to see that come back too. Or can anyone point me in the direction of a good different program with good templates? Just want to diversify a little.


Thanks