Current RXM1 Payments?

[ChesterCoperpot]

Hello All,

I know this may be a touchy subject because some people have not even been paid thier past due commissions before the shutdown (inluding myself, although after talking with brittin I am fuly confident I will have my check by the end of this week)but.... I was wondering if anyone has been paid there commissions earned after the "shutdown". In other words is RXM1 paying you for the traffic you are sending them right now or last 2 weeks?

I am looking to switch back over but I wanted to know if current (NOT PAST DUE) payments have been going out smoothly.

Thanks!

[Bad Ass Rocker]

I really doubt it. If they can't send out PAST due then why would they send outcurrent due. And I couldn't explain enough how completely, 100%, grade A PISSED OFF I would be if they were sending out current commissions, before catching up with past commissions. If others had received past commissions and they started paying their current commissions, while I'm sitting here with NO commissions...I wouldn't be too happy...

[manx]

Wow -- Great Minds Think Alike smileys/smiley17.gif


http://rxaffiliateforum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3052&PN= (http://rxaffiliateforum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3052&PN=1) 1

[redex]

LOL Don't you guys realize that every time they read a post from an affiliate whining about not getting laid, they put you at the bottom of the pile smileys/smiley8.gif j/k

[ChesterCoperpot]

redex they seem to like to pay you


Have you been paid for week ending 3/26?


I am not whining just WONDERING if current payments are being sent out. I havent been promoting RXM1 for a month, but I would like to get going with them again if they are paying on time.


I didnt know if thier currnt payments were automated and a lot easier to go out compared to the past due commissions which have been somewhat a mess..

[mmarulkamm]

redex i wright


wait until they clear all the problems


and i'm sure they will pay all the money

[King_Phen]

>to get going with them again if they are paying on time.<


They aren't.

[PotentMix]

I must say that there is no indication on this board so far this week that any further payments of any kind have been made. There were some payments received, so it seems, last week for past due commissions.


I haven't received any payments either pre or post takeover. Nor have I received any promises of payment. The time for a definitive statement to affiliates regarding payments is overdue. We've gotten notices about a toll free number and things like that which I scrutinized only to see if there was any mention of payments being made.Nothing has been said.


Like everyone, I hate having to switch links. But I'm resigned to having todo it very soon if there's nothing definitive, as opposed to mere promises, forthcoming about commission payments in the next couple of days.

[King_Phen]

>Nor have I received any promises of payment<





I have, and the promised dates have come and gone on more than one occasion. I was optimistic, now I'm just annoyed. If they told me the sky was blue, I would have to look up.

[nightowl]

Hello All,

I know this may be a touchy subject because some people have not even been paid thier past due commissions before the shutdown (inluding myself, although after talking with brittin I am fuly confident I will have my check by the end of this week)but.... I was wondering if anyone has been paid there commissions earned after the "shutdown". In other words is RXM1 paying you for the traffic you are sending them right now or last 2 weeks?

I am looking to switch back over but I wanted to know if current (NOT PAST DUE) payments have been going out smoothly.

Thanks!





I must have missed the post that mentioned Brittin's phone number. Could you please post it here (or pm me, whichever you prefer)?


Thanks

[ChesterCoperpot]

I must have missed the post that mentioned Brittin's phone number. Could you please post it here (or pm me, whichever you prefer)?


Thanks


Dont have a phone # I have been talking with her through affiliates@rxmedicalnetwork.com

[pillz]

Once again another program promising the world and delivering to all who are owed $$ nothing. Could it be that they are waiting to collect enough $$ from current sales to cover a few past due payments to favored affiliates?

[SmileyB]

OK, not that any of your really care to hear from me, or what I have to say but here goes. I was going to wait until tomorrow to post this but I will do so now and hope I don't have to hear the backlash from you all about my "promises" not being kept!


Wellton International is the new company and we are all trying to do what is right and get things done so you can all continue to make money in this business, with our great pricing and what we have to offer. This is the first payout for Wellton Intl. and we have had to overcome a learning curve. I am confident that we are going about this correctly and in time I hope youall agree.


The wires for 3/20/04-3/26/04 were done today. You should all see them in your accounts tomorrow. The checks for the above datesare being cut now. They will go in the mail over the next 2 days. As with all new companies, sometimes there are things to overcome, and this was one for us.


The next pay period will be on-time, Friday's, as before! I know you all think I am blowing smoke, so all I can say to you that are posting hereis, once you get your wires and checks don't forget to postwith the good feedback too!


We at Wellton appreciate you all and the patience you have shown us (voluntary or forced) while wework through the transition. There are so many things to learn and we know that in a few weeks we will look back and be happy that this "phase" has passed. Thank you for your continued efforts.


smileys/smiley4.gif

[SmileyB]

By the way, I can best be reached at affiliates@rxmedicalnetwork.com.

[chicago2]

thanks for the info.

[Gavin]

Good to hear :)

[redex]

SmileyB that ought to hold them off until tomorrow morning when the postman comes.


Keep the faith!

[phonehome]

Some hereappear to be in want of attention giventheir constant redundant posting andself-appointed roles as OP apologists.


I think everyonehasgot the message who has beenpaid.Pleasespare a thought for those who haven't. If you can't even do that, then please spare us your vacuity.


We'reon the same side. If common suppliers don't pay on time, then that is an issue for us all. One day it might be you. I don't know why you think you're immune,unless youhave a financial interestin the OP.... perhaps you do, which would explain a lot.

[RxRob]

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[Gavin]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=vacuity (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=vacuity)


You referring to your head? smileys/smiley8.gifj/k


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[phonehome]

You referring to your head?


I'm referring to people whoquote Bon Jovi...

[ChesterCoperpot]

OK, not that any of your really care to hear from me, or what I have to say but here goes. I was going to wait until tomorrow to post this but I will do so now and hope I don't have to hear the backlash from you all about my "promises" not being kept!


Wellton International is the new company and we are all trying to do what is right and get things done so you can all continue to make money in this business, with our great pricing and what we have to offer. This is the first payout for Wellton Intl. and we have had to overcome a learning curve. I am confident that we are going about this correctly and in time I hope youall agree.


The wires for 3/20/04-3/26/04 were done today. You should all see them in your accounts tomorrow. The checks for the above datesare being cut now. They will go in the mail over the next 2 days. As with all new companies, sometimes there are things to overcome, and this was one for us.


The next pay period will be on-time, Friday's, as before! I know you all think I am blowing smoke, so all I can say to you that are posting hereis, once you get your wires and checks don't forget to postwith the good feedback too!


We at Wellton appreciate you all and the patience you have shown us (voluntary or forced) while wework through the transition. There are so many things to learn and we know that in a few weeks we will look back and be happy that this "phase" has passed. Thank you for your continued efforts.


smileys/smiley4.gif





Thanks Brittin. Just a simple post like this can be very reassuring to us. When there is no response or communication from programs that is when we start to worry and bitch smileys/smiley17.gif

[DEWIE42]

WALK THIS WAY!!!!smileys/smiley2.gif

[PotentMix]

Cpot - Where was that posted?

[nightowl]

OK, not that any of your really care to hear from me, or what I have to say but here goes. I was going to wait until tomorrow to post this but I will do so now and hope I don't have to hear the backlash from you all about my "promises" not being kept!


Wellton International is the new company and we are all trying to do what is right and get things done so you can all continue to make money in this business, with our great pricing and what we have to offer. This is the first payout for Wellton Intl. and we have had to overcome a learning curve. I am confident that we are going about this correctly and in time I hope youall agree.


The wires for 3/20/04-3/26/04 were done today. You should all see them in your accounts tomorrow. The checks for the above datesare being cut now. They will go in the mail over the next 2 days. As with all new companies, sometimes there are things to overcome, and this was one for us.


The next pay period will be on-time, Friday's, as before! I know you all think I am blowing smoke, so all I can say to you that are posting hereis, once you get your wires and checks don't forget to postwith the good feedback too!


We at Wellton appreciate you all and the patience you have shown us (voluntary or forced) while wework through the transition. There are so many things to learn and we know that in a few weeks we will look back and be happy that this "phase" has passed. Thank you for your continued efforts.


http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/smileys/smiley4.gif



__________________
Brittin Cahill
Affiliate Manager





Hmm....so what happens tothe commissions owed to us prior to the 3/8 shutdown? smileys/smiley5.gifMost of usare owed at least2 weeksof commissions(Week 2/21thru 2/27 and Week 2/28thru 3/5).Unless IMS and RX Medical had filed for chapter 7 or 11 bankrupcy protection, seems to me we are owed those "older" commssions, ya?

[chat]

"The wires for 3/20/04-3/26/04 were done today."


Ditto, That's nice Brittin, but I don't hear anything about being paidpre-shutdown commissions. smileys/smiley11.gif I've noticed that a direct answer to this question is being carefully avoided. smileys/smiley2.gif

[phonehome]

Hmm....so what happens tothe commissions owed to us prior to the 3/8 shutdown? http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/smileys/smiley5.gifMost of usare owed at least2 weeksof commissions(Week 2/21thru 2/27 and Week 2/28thru 3/5).Unless IMS and RX Medical had filed for chapter 7 or 11 bankrupcy protection, seems to me we are owed those "older" commssions, ya?


There iscertainly a liablityfor that debt. They've asked for a bit moretime to pay it, which they've being given.

[FlippyOdegard]

Brittin
The next pay period will be on-time, Friday's, as before! I know you all think I am blowing smoke, so all I can say to you that are posting hereis, once you get your wires and checks don't forget to postwith the good feedback too!


After I see the wire, this will be the first place I'll come and give thanks. :) Then, I'll pay the mortgage, the vet bills and the hosting fees.


Honestly, all we want is direct and factual information. Well, that and cold hard cash, but communication is of vital importance. We get less cranky when we hear from you, instead of just hearing redex gloating about already being paid. smileys/smiley2.gif

[pillz]

It's time to pay the piper for those commissions from February isn't it?

[Bad Ass Rocker]

Hmm....so what happens tothe commissions owed to us prior to the 3/8 shutdown? smileys/smiley5.gifMost of usare owed at least2 weeksof commissions(Week 2/21thru 2/27 and Week 2/28thru 3/5).Unless IMS and RX Medical had filed for chapter 7 or 11 bankrupcy protection, seems to me we are owed those "older" commssions, ya?





I second that...

[bylanc]

I got the wire today. The first one since shutdown. Don't know for what periods I have been paid, have to check with Brittin.

[killroy]

Well, Brittin promised me a wire and here it is. It seems that's about all my outstanding fees in full. My first week was a bit weak, so I have no problem of folding that into the second week's payment.

Well Done, RxMedical! Thanks.


SN

[rouletteyou]

Good Job Brittin. Keep it coming.

[PotentMix]

Nothing received here.

[manx]

Got my wire for weekending 3/26/04 smileys/smiley17.gif

[FlippyOdegard]

Nothin' here. smileys/smiley6.gif

[NewbiusMaximus]

You guys/gals not seeing anything; do you mean wires or checks? I figure if payment's back on schedule, then wires today, checks by Friday.


When Brittan told me she hoped my payment would be received early this week, I'm sure she didn't know off hand that I wasn't set up with wire.


Guess we'll find out by Friday (maybe Saturday).

[Gavin]

Got My Wire. Thanks...

[FlippyOdegard]

You guys/gals not seeing anything; do you mean wires or checks? I figure if payment's back on schedule, then wires today, checks by Friday.


I'm a wire guy/gal and still nothing.

[DEWIE42]

Is there anyone else not being able to post in all the threads?? Or having trouble when going to post??? Only thread I can get intosmileys/smiley5.gif

[FlippyOdegard]

No, it took me about five tries to get my post before yours to go through.

[manager]

Seems like we have a full database. We are working on enlarging it now.

[DEWIE42]

Thankssmileys/smiley4.gif

[redex]

Seems like we have a full database. We are working on enlarging it now.


DEWIE! Database enlargement pills. Start an affiliate program LOL

[Bad Ass Rocker]

No check today...

[RxRob]

No check today...


Should be there by Monday at the lastest. If not, it'll definitely be there Tuesday. Otherwise, it should be there the first day after the last day before the end of the...

[Bad Ass Rocker]

No check today...


Should be there by Monday at the lastest. If not, it'll definitely be there Tuesday. Otherwise, it should be there the first day after the last day before the end of the...





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[rf33]

No check today...


Should be there by Monday at the lastest. If not, it'll definitely be there Tuesday. Otherwise, it should be there the first day after the last day before the end of the...





Sounds like HMU must have been the party that purchased RxMedicalNetwork.smileys/smiley8.gif

[nightowl]

No check today...


Should be there by Monday at the lastest. If not, it'll definitely be there Tuesday. Otherwise, it should be there the first day after the last day before the end of the...





Sounds like HMU must have been the party that purchased RxMedicalNetwork.smileys/smiley8.gif





Well, at least that would mean we'd eventually get paid in full, huh? smileys/smiley2.gif When HMU took over from EVA, they got a little behind inthe payments, but they eventually caught up and paid everything they owed us (well, at least forthe most of us).Let'shope IMS/RX Medical will do the same. smileys/smiley16.gif

[kurkapan]

So they paid you for the last week but has anyone received the old commissions?

[nightowl]

So they paid you for the last week but has anyone received the old commissions?





Not yet. Still waiting on an answer from Brittin. Let's hope they'll do the right thing and pay us.

[PotentMix]

I still have been paid nothing for either before or after the takeover. I've emailed Brittin, and received no response in over a day. Very bad sign.

[killroy]

I've been paid up on the outstanding, and I tend to believe her that I will get future payments too.


SN

[FlippyOdegard]

I still have been paid nothing for either before or after the takeover. I've emailed Brittin, and received no response in over a day. Very bad sign.


I wonder how they pick &amp; choose who to pay?

[ChesterCoperpot]

..I shall remain silent till the end of the week. If no checkby then, then i can start to whine again right?smileys/smiley1.gif

[redex]

I wonder how they pick &amp; choose who to pay?


The ones that don't whine LOL smileys/smiley8.gif j/k

[chopsticks]

Redex: E-x-a-c-t-l-y!

[rxmary]

Well, my emails are always returned by Brittin (positive stuff here.....take note), and I was told that my check would go out this week. Hope to see it by next Tues or Wed. (Please, Please, Please smileys/smiley2.gif)

[FlippyOdegard]

I wonder how they pick &amp; choose who to pay?


The ones that don't whine LOL smileys/smiley8.gif j/k





Yeah, but I'm guessing they're not paying the people who don't even know about this forum either. Besides, even though*I* whine here, I'm not even writing to Brittin or Dave. So, if they think they know who I am...they are probably wrong. smileys/smiley2.gif

[RxRob]

Woohooo! Got my wire today. smileys/smiley1.gif

[RxRob]

Woohooo! Got my wire today. smileys/smiley1.gif


Oops. Nevermind. I got my HMU wire, today. I guess I'm still playing "Chase the Paycheck" with the company formerly known as RxMedical. smileys/smiley17.gif


Tag! You're it!

[gutterman]

I got a check today. What's the ccurrent bank name? Just want to see if it's from the new company or the old one.

[chicago2]

i thought rx medical use to use wachovia, I could be wrong though

[Thinker]

Union Bank of California

[Bad Ass Rocker]

NO$ 4 ME!

[gutterman]

Today's check was Union bank. Guess I don't have to worry about it then. I heard there were some problems with some from the old company.

[Bad Ass Rocker]

I'mknow this question has been asked before, but I'm not sure whether it has been answered yet... The last email from RxMed stated that we'd be paid for commissions from 4/3/04-4/9/04, but I still haven't seen anything about when we'll receive commission prior to that date... Are they paying the previous commissions as though they were weekly payments? Or are they send all of those commissions in one largesum? Or have they said lately that they even plan on paying that at all?

[PotentMix]

Regarding whining - I don't consider stating the facts whether one has been paid or not to be whining. Just the opposite. These boards are set up to help keep us all informed. If an OP is not paying its affiliates, that's a general concern for all affiliates of that merchant.


Where else can you go for up to the date information on where things stand? We have a very sad history of either getting no information from OPs, or false promises. I come here for a reality check, and hope I can contribute as well to sorting out what's real and what isn't.


I consider this a business, and not a game. I'm getting a little tired of seeing that clown emoticon splattered on every page here when I'm trying to guage the financial health of my business, albiet a risky one.


End of rant. Now I'll try my best to lighten up.

[gutterman]

BAR,the check I got is definitely from before the shutdown(the amount is way more than i've made since) I think it is for two weeks before. So MAYBE they are trying to clear up the arrears.

[Bad Ass Rocker]

BAR,the check I got is definitely from before the shutdown(the amount is way more than i've made since) I think it is for two weeks before. So MAYBE they are trying to clear up the arrears.


Thanks for the reply... That sure helps my blood pressure to see that...

[RxRob]

Yes, they are/were planning on paying for prior commissions. Brittin said I should expect mine the beginning of this week. Considering that the beginning of this week has come and gone and she isn't returning emails, I'm not very confident that I'll be receiving money any time soon.

[Bad Ass Rocker]

Well, I have new found amount of patience as I have emailed back and forth quite a few times with her and I appreciate the fact that she is giving me alot more information than I once had (more thanI get here) and that she is responding very quickly...almost like an instant messenger smileys/smiley1.gif


She probably isn't answering your emails because I am keeping her so busy.... smileys/smiley8.gif

[RxRob]

Cool. I'd rather see you get paid first anyway. You bitch way more than me. LOL smileys/smiley4.gif

[Bad Ass Rocker]

Cool. I'd rather see you get paid first anyway. You bitch way more than me. LOL smileys/smiley4.gif





LOL, well I have to admit...


At least you won't have to hear me bitch anymore...so we'll both be happy... smileys/smiley17.gif

[ChesterCoperpot]

I just want this sh*t behind me. Im sick of worrying about it, running to my mailbox every day only for it to be filled with bills :(

[kurkapan]

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I HAVEN'T DONE THAT????!!?!?!?!?WHAT THE f**k IS GOING ON!!!!

[chicago2]

no wire this morning.

[redex]

Cool. I'd rather see you get paid first anyway. You bitch way more than me. LOL smileys/smiley4.gif





Good one! smileys/smiley16.gif

[NewbiusMaximus]

Chesterpot,...you sound like me...pathetic ain't it? What's worst is my wife buggin' about it. "Where's the money? Do you have the money? Why don't you have the money? Why isn't the money here now?" and so on. smileys/smiley2.gif


Chicago2, I don't know what your definition of rich is, but they litteraly owe me thousands. Plus, 1k more in refills since the shut down.


I think it's because my last name starts with S....must be last in f**king line or something .smileys/smiley34.gif


BTY, is this considered bitching? If so, please, go f**k off...he he.


All joking aside, I'm confident my money will be in my hands...some day.

[chicago2]

i am owed 1000's also.

[PotentMix]

Ditto.

[IWorkForFree]

millions.smileys/smiley19.gif

[kurkapan]

im owed like 3k and won't return to them till they pay me..

[RxRob]

They only owe me around 6k or so, so I'm notoverly concerned about it.
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[ChesterCoperpot]

Ill just say IM owed in the 5 digit range smileys/smiley19.gif

[FlippyOdegard]

Hey, even though I'm still owed a couple thou, I'll give them credit for paying me for last week - a wire just came through now. So, now I'm one of the happy semi-paid.


So, thanks RxMed (or Wellton or somethin') for starting to get caught up. I will no longer panic about owed commissions, even though I'd love to see them as soon as humanly possible. I'm just glad I don't have to switch out links again.

[Bad Ass Rocker]

Well, the only thing that's keeping my faith, considering that I haven't received anything from them, is that I see that more and more of you are getting paid something. So I can only hope that I'll get something in the near future.

[chicago2]

I got a wire this after noon!


have a nice weekend, going out to buy stuff

[Thinker]

Still no payment - but only in the thousands...

[nightowl]

Yup, no payment here either(for both the old commissions owed beforethe shutdown noranything after the shutdown). smileys/smiley18.gifThey (Wellton) need to understand that alot of affiliateshave made a financial investment with PPC ads, etc, not to mentionthe investment of time and energywith SEO, etc, to promote their products.An investmentmade in good faith, expecting to receive payment for those efforts.Perhaps we should send them a bill forall of that, just to make this point? smileys/smiley8.gifAt any rate, I ain't gonna promote them anymore until I get paid in full.What do we say we allgo on a strike.

[pillz]

Nothing here either.

[phonehome]

no payment here

[chat]

No payment today, and I was told that I was on the list to be paid last week. No response to myemail either. I guess I don't rank as high as some of you othersuperaff's. smileys/smiley7.gif Time to get busy with some other OP's who pay.

[DaveM]

No response to myemail either.


Yes, I seem to be having the same problem no response to email. Seems like Brittin is M.I.A.

[redex]

I am sure Brittan is busy coloring easter eggs or wating chocolate bunny ears. I got an email from her yesterday. She is around but you guys keep emailing her the same questions over and over, her inbox is full LOL smileys/smiley8.gif

[chat]

I got an email from her yesterday.





Must be nice to be at the top of her "list to be paid."smileys/smiley14.gif

[chicago2]

i was paid for the most recent pay period yesterday but I have not been paid back commissions from rx medical one.

[SmileyB]

I only have time for a quick message so I thought I would post it here, since this is the "most active" string. I am taking the weekend off and celebrating the Easter Holiday with family. I have received all of the emails sent to me and will respond when the week begins.


I wish you all a Happy and Safe weekend! smileys/smiley1.gif

[Thinker]

She could have at least said something like - "the check is in the mail" - oh yeah, she told us that one already. smileys/smiley5.gif

[daweller]

Getting paid is bad you guys,


money is the root of all evil


if you get paid, you will only do bad things :(

[FlippyOdegard]

i was paid for the most recent pay period yesterday but I have not been paid back commissions from rx medical one.





Me too. Maybe they're paying in reverse alphabetical order. That's why Redex was before Odegard and Chicago2.

[kurkapan]

so what is going on now?They are paying the new commissions but not paying the old?

[rxmary]

so what is going on now?They are paying the new commissions but not paying the old?


I haven't received either old or new payments.

[FlippyOdegard]

so what is going on now?They are paying the new commissions but not paying the old?


Yeah, I got paid my new commission, but my old commission is still outstanding. Hey, at least I can pay the mortgage now. I know it doesn't help any of you who haven't been paid yet...and I don't want to turn into Redex and appear to gloat either. I have faith that RxMedical will work things out eventually and get back to normal, but I feel badly for those who haven't been paid *anything*. I don't know how they're deciding who to pay - the whales and those who have been most annoying maybe. I would end up in the "most annoying" category, I suppose.

[chicago2]

well I got a wire which is what I was used to getting before the crash. I certainly am not one of their top affiliates and I have not been too annoying. I would advise anyone that is receiving checks to switch to wire because they don't charge extra, once it's there it's there (no bouncing checks, clearing times, or waiting for a check to arrive), and they seem to be paying wires first. Now that I have got a payment I am willing to be cool about the delay with the back commissions due. I think everyone out there that has not been paid the latest commissions will be getting paid shortly.

[chat]

I don't know how they're deciding who to pay - the whales and those who have been most annoying maybe. I would end up in the "most annoying" category, I suppose.





According to correspondence I have received,there is a "list to be paid."Sounds to me like they don't intend on paying everyone, otherwise we would all have been on this list! Since I'm neither a whale nor annoying, I'm probably lower on their list than whale sh*t in the Marianis Trench.

[kurkapan]

I can be as much annoying as they want...just pay mesmileys/smiley19.gif

[redex]

Do you think I will get paid for week 42 on time?

[DEWIE42]

Do you think I will get paid for week 42 on time? Do you think I will get paid for week "52" on time?smileys/smiley8.gifBest to always try and be a step ahead of you redex!smileys/smiley2.gif

[rf33]

Redex,


Although I agree with you on many occasions about affiliates getting worked up about wires being a little late, I have to agree that in this case it has been warranted griping. Lots of people (myself included) are owed substantial sums of money, and them paying some people parts of what they are owed, others all of what they are owed, and still others nothing yet is a little disconcerting. I do not know about you, but for many people using PPC, they have had to pay Google, Looksmart, etc for their traffic already, and Rx-Medical, Welton, whoever is just using affiliates as a line of credit. Do you think that any other advertising medium would have your rather casual attutude about getting paid? I know that Google sure does not. About 1 hour after a declined cc charge, your account is suspended. I for one am tired of floating their debt.

[PotentMix]

If I'm intermpreting things correctly, we all shouldbe receivingpayments by wire this Friday for, I believe, 4/3 through 4/9. At least, I got an email so stating.


This will be someithing of an acid test of whether the new owners are really making a sincere, honest attempt to perform. Of course, still left open are the unpaid amounts for both before and after the takeover. Those should be paid immediately, but I'm not holding my breath.

[NewbiusMaximus]

I'm beginning to get the impression that I will never see themoney owed to me before the change in ownership.


The responsibility lays in the hands of RxMedical since they were the ones in operation during the time of my commission earnings.


I have been involved with 2 different companies pulling the plug. One was a technical school which took the money and ran, and another was the Ad agency I once worked for. You always saw the signs of the shut down and first instincts were always correct. Experience tells me to NEVER count on the best outcome, but only the worst.


I'm sure when I get my wire this Friday, it'll be for commissions earned after Welton assumed ownership.


I'll never see my other money...anyone willing to bet the advertising moneyI paid for that commision?

[RxRob]

I'm beginning to get the impression that I will never see themoney owed to me before the change in ownership.





The point is, it is the same people running this business behind a new corporation. They are responsible for paying the commissions earned by their affiliates before RxMedical was dissolved and WillyWonka Inc. was erected.

[PotentMix]

I just got through with another email exchange with Brittin regarding old commissions. Here's what she wrote back:



This is beyond my control. I am passing the information on to the necessary managment team. They will stay current on the commissions for Wellton Intl. The old RX debts we are trying to get a handle on, but I do not know more than that.

Sorry...
Brittin


Draw your own conclusions.

[NewbiusMaximus]

Makes you wonder if they understand the value of the affiliate.


If they are actually trying to collect the money from RxMedical for the past due commission, then they are wasting their efforts. They'll never get it. So, the question is, what is the value of the affiliate? If they pay out of their pockets what is owed, then it becomes an investment. The money owed is about 3 weeks worth of commission (correct?). Assuming that the 3 weeks of commission is based off of an average weekly commission earned by that affiliate, then Welton Intl. will see a return in the 3 weeks. Or, they could miss the train and not see those future earnings at all.


The money they owe me is based off of an average of weekly earnings plus a small percentage of growth. Each month I was growing my sales at about a 10 to 20% growth rate. Sure, there is the risk of an affiliate taking the money and pulling all links and promotion, but that's business. The wiser choice I believe would be the initial investment for a much bigger return. Or, maybe I'm just rambling as usual....

[NewbiusMaximus]

The point is, it is the same people running this business behind a new corporation. They are responsible for paying the commissions earned by their affiliates before RxMedical was dissolved and WillyWonka Inc. was erected.


Man, I didn't let that sink in before my previous post. Are they really the same people behind a new veil?...I mean corporation?

[DEWIE42]

I just got through with another email exchange with Brittin regarding old commissions. Here's what she wrote back:



This is beyond my control. I am passing the information on to the necessary managment team. They will stay current on the commissions for Wellton Intl. The old RX debts we are trying to get a handle on, but I do not know more than that.

Sorry...
Brittin


Draw your own conclusions. Potentmix I think you are a sweetheart...but do you not think that although it is your personal correspondence with Brittin that it shouldn't be shared here at a Public Forum ..ie PM'img is good and emailing your own contacts here at the Forum, but IMHO I think it makes it hard on a NEW AFFILIATE DIRECTOR..to see posts like this...kinda like putting her right out there for all to see, I know she is trying...but a possiblility of not wanting to correspond with affiliates after she sees her email correspondence shown,just doesnt sit well MHO again,dont think any of us want the new AD clamming up or not posting here does anyone else agree with me on this?smileys/smiley3.gifI say lets let Brittin do her job (and do it well) I have spoken with her and emailed her...BUT..I dont think she would want me posting our conversations here at the Forum, and I know you or feel you didnt do or mean it in a bad way..I say lets cut her some slack.....she also took on a heavy workload,and I feel IMHO that she is doing the best for all concerned...smileys/smiley16.gif

[chicago2]

I agree..


Please don't quit onus Brittin


If she quits then we are really screwed.smileys/smiley16.gif

[chicago2]

Ipersonally feel that they will eventually pay the back commissions due from Rx Medical.

[overdose]

I just got through with another email exchange with Brittin regarding old commissions. Here's what she wrote back:



This is beyond my control. I am passing the information on to the necessary managment team. They will stay current on the commissions for Wellton Intl. The old RX debts we are trying to get a handle on, but I do not know more than that.

Sorry...
Brittin


Draw your own conclusions.


Potentmix I think you are a sweetheart...but do you not think that although it is your personal correspondence with Brittin that it shouldn't be shared here at a Public Forum ..ie PM'img is good and emailing your own contacts here at the Forum, but IMHO I think it makes it hard on a NEW AFFILIATE DIRECTOR..to see posts like this...kinda like putting her right out there for all to see, I know she is trying...but a possiblility of not wanting to correspond with affiliates after she sees her email correspondence shown,just doesnt sit well MHO again,dont think any of us want the new AD clamming up or not posting here does anyone else agree with me on this?smileys/smiley3.gifI say lets let Brittin do her job (and do it well) I have spoken with her and emailed her...BUT..I dont think she would want me posting our conversations here at the Forum, and I know you or feel you didnt do or mean it in a bad way..I say lets cut her some slack.....she also took on a heavy workload,and I feel IMHO that she is doing the best for all concerned...smileys/smiley16.gif


I don't see anything wrong with PotentMix's post.


BrittinIS the AD, she should inform ALL of us what she knows, not just to selected a few. besides, she is not NEW anymore, there's limit on slack.lets let her do the job, yeah, butif she is not capable of doing the job or she does not have enough say in anything being an AD, pull that pharmboy out behind the curtain!

[PotentMix]

I respectfully disagree, Dewie. While I appreciate you're sensitivity toward Brittin, she's the only person we have with whom to correspond. I think its vital to all affiliates to know as best we can what this OPs intentions and capabilities are.


Idon't see any sensitivity shown toward RxM1's affiliates about their need to make a living, pay mortgages, support kids, etc. That's were the sensitivity should lie, IMO. She's confirmed management's insensitivity, and I think its vital that we all know it. So, I see it completely the other way around.


All I ask is honest communication, coupled with payment of what's owed. Personally, I think the CEO, should communicate with us openly and honestly, as opposed to Brittin, thereby relieving her. The circumstances cry out for it.


Chicago2, I certainly hope you're right.

[Gavin]

I just got through with another email exchange with Brittin regarding old commissions. Here's what she wrote back:



This is beyond my control. I am passing the information on to the necessary managment team. They will stay current on the commissions for Wellton Intl. The old RX debts we are trying to get a handle on, but I do not know more than that.

Sorry...
Brittin


Draw your own conclusions.


Potentmix I think you are a sweetheart...but do you not think that although it is your personal correspondence with Brittin that it shouldn't be shared here at a Public Forum ..ie PM'img is good and emailing your own contacts here at the Forum, but IMHO I think it makes it hard on a NEW AFFILIATE DIRECTOR..to see posts like this...kinda like putting her right out there for all to see, I know she is trying...but a possiblility of not wanting to correspond with affiliates after she sees her email correspondence shown,just doesnt sit well MHO again,dont think any of us want the new AD clamming up or not posting here does anyone else agree with me on this?smileys/smiley3.gifI say lets let Brittin do her job (and do it well) I have spoken with her and emailed her...BUT..I dont think she would want me posting our conversations here at the Forum, and I know you or feel you didnt do or mean it in a bad way..I say lets cut her some slack.....she also took on a heavy workload,and I feel IMHO that she is doing the best for all concerned...smileys/smiley16.gif


I agree you don't post other peoples emails without their permission. She is just going to quit emailing you and I wouldn't blame her.

[NewbiusMaximus]

So when I got the mail and saw a check envelope from Rx Medical One, I began thinking what my embarrassed reply to today's posts would be.


But, when I opened up the envelope I got a real slap in the face; acheck for 2.3% of what is owed to me. Actually it was for commissions from 3/20 - 3/26 when they turned things back on. I wasn't promoting at that time so it explains the small amount.


Can companiestake on a new organizationname to avoid liabilities when they haven't declared bankruptcy? If they are indeed the same people, different name, then I want the fingers pointing towards "RxMedical" to stop.

[Bad Ass Rocker]

I received a check as well, but I received substantially more than 2.3% of what I'm owed. Don't get me wrong, I'm owed quite a bit more than what I received today, but a little money is better than no money.


I'm curious as to when they will pay the past due commissions...how long will it take them to catch up?

[DEWIE42]

slap in the facesmileys/smiley8.gifand a commission check all in one day....smileys/smiley2.gifNewbius I think you had quite a day....you are soooooo funny,I know the movie that Avatar is from but it just left my head,but I like to think of you really being the driver of the car! Makes me smileys/smiley4.gifsmileys/smiley16.gif

[NewbiusMaximus]

LOL...I'm not that chubby, but I do know how to groove smileys/smiley16.gif.


I'll be honest, I gave up equity in a startup company to try and spend more time at home. Figured I could make a decent living in internet marketing since I was doing pretty damn good on my spare time.


Funny how I could let that venture go, not look back, and not fall into regret. Yet, with this money owed to me, I can't seem to take it as a loss and move on. sh*t, if I did that, what a pleasant suprise I'd have 2 months later when I finally did get the check smileys/smiley8.gif.


Going back to topic though, do you guys really think these are the same owners with a different name? What ever happened to Eathan?

[chat]

I just got through with another email exchange with Brittin regarding old commissions. Here's what she wrote back:



This is beyond my control. I am passing the information on to the necessary managment team. They will stay current on the commissions for Wellton Intl. The old RX debts we are trying to get a handle on, but I do not know more than that.

Sorry...
Brittin


Draw your own conclusions.


Potentmix I think you are a sweetheart...but do you not think that although it is your personal correspondence with Brittin that it shouldn't be shared here at a Public Forum ..ie PM'img is good and emailing your own contacts here at the Forum, but IMHO I think it makes it hard on a NEW AFFILIATE DIRECTOR..to see posts like this...kinda like putting her right out there for all to see, I know she is trying...but a possiblility of not wanting to correspond with affiliates after she sees her email correspondence shown,just doesnt sit well MHO again,dont think any of us want the new AD clamming up or not posting here does anyone else agree with me on this?smileys/smiley3.gifI say lets let Brittin do her job (and do it well) I have spoken with her and emailed her...BUT..I dont think she would want me posting our conversations here at the Forum, and I know you or feel you didnt do or mean it in a bad way..I say lets cut her some slack.....she also took on a heavy workload,and I feel IMHO that she is doing the best for all concerned...smileys/smiley16.gif





You're off base Dewie, The subject of this email is business, not personal.Let it all hang out in this forum -we've all had enough of being lied to by sleeze bag affiliate programs. It's nice to be able to compare the lies told to us with the lies told to you. Maybe, eventually the truth will come out. smileys/smiley14.gif

[arhp52]

smileys/smiley6.gif


I don't think we will see the back payments. I spoke to Britny on the phone week before last. She told me the payments would go out the first of last week. Evidently they didn't. Now she's singing a whole new song. I would rather she hadn't even called than to call and promise something that isn't true. I smell a rat somewhere in this situation and believe if we don't see the payments this week we won't see them at all.

[PotentMix]

I also report good stuff in this open forum. I received a check today for the weekending 3/26. I feel much encouraged by this,while again stressing that payment for "old" commissionsremains an issue that won't go away.


As for airing BUSINESS emails in this forum, its apparent that there's disagreement. Ifeel its entirely appropriate to air anything here bearing on what thiscompany's management is or is not doing. Its an OPEN forum.


I do agree, however, that anything of a personal nature is out of bounds. I don't feel I came anywhere near crossing that line. Lets just agree to disagree.

[RxRob]

They are waiting to see whether they can get away with not paying or not, before they pay. They already know that most affiliates don't care whether or not everyone else was paid or not, as long as they were paid.

People are acting like rxmedical was purchased by an existing company, when in most likelyhood the company was created as a smokescreen. Hey, smokescreens are fine. I think IHC is behind an offshore company. Correct me if I'm wrong. But, to use it as a reason to pocket some nice profits and continue on like nothing ever happened, is bullsh*t.


Everyone who is happily sending sales remember...next time it might be you.

[pillz]

Until I receive payment for all past due commissions, I will not send these people any traffic.

[NewbiusMaximus]

I would like to say that I do appreciate the communication I've received from Brittin even if I don't like what's being said.As we all experienced,nonews is muchworst than bad news.

[cdc71]

I got a check for new sales but nothing for past due!


I'm only directing one of my sites to rxone and only because they do COD. I'll leave my other 20+ sites pointed to the competition until I see the past due $...





CDC71

[Thinker]

I just got through with another email exchange with Brittin regarding old commissions. Here's what she wrote back:



This is beyond my control. I am passing the information on to the necessary managment team. They will stay current on the commissions for Wellton Intl. The old RX debts we are trying to get a handle on, but I do not know more than that.

Sorry...
Brittin


Draw your own conclusions.


Potentmix I think you are a sweetheart...but do you not think that although it is your personal correspondence with Brittin that it shouldn't be shared here at a Public Forum ..ie PM'img is good and emailing your own contacts here at the Forum, but IMHO I think it makes it hard on a NEW AFFILIATE DIRECTOR..to see posts like this...kinda like putting her right out there for all to see, I know she is trying...but a possiblility of not wanting to correspond with affiliates after she sees her email correspondence shown,just doesnt sit well MHO again,dont think any of us want the new AD clamming up or not posting here does anyone else agree with me on this?smileys/smiley3.gifI say lets let Brittin do her job (and do it well) I have spoken with her and emailed her...BUT..I dont think she would want me posting our conversations here at the Forum, and I know you or feel you didnt do or mean it in a bad way..I say lets cut her some slack.....she also took on a heavy workload,and I feel IMHO that she is doing the best for all concerned...smileys/smiley16.gif





You're off base Dewie, The subject of this email is business, not personal.Let it all hang out in this forum -we've all had enough of being lied to by sleeze bag affiliate programs. It's nice to be able to compare the lies told to us with the lies told to you. Maybe, eventually the truth will come out. smileys/smiley14.gif





This is an open forum where people exchange information and view information in the hope that everyone makes informed decisions. I was told that check was in the mail by Brittin. This is new information that might help me figure out if I want to promote RxMedical.

[FlippyOdegard]

Actually, I feel sorry for Brittin, if she's just their AD, but has no input into payments. She's juggling all of us angry affiliates, but probably has her hands tied. And if she's never been in this position before (owing affiliates), it's probably pretty depressing to see your mailbox/voicemail fill constantly with complaints.


I'm promoting RxMedical because they pay a lot more than my second string program and I'll continue to promote, as long as I get wires every Friday. I am still waiting on my past commissions, but I'm a little more patient right now with money in the bank. Perhaps they can start adding our oldcommissions into our new commissions with a payment plan. You know, like 25% at a time, as a good faith effort.

[chicago2]

Perhaps they can start adding our oldcommissions into our new commissions with a payment plan. You know, like 25% at a time, as a good faith effort.





I was thinking about that this afternoon. I was also thinking maybe they could compensate by lowering base prices? Although they are pretty low so I doubt they could do it

[nightowl]

Actually, I feel sorry for Brittin, if she's just their AD, but has no input into payments. She's juggling all of us angry affiliates, but probably has her hands tied. And if she's never been in this position before (owing affiliates), it's probably pretty depressing to see your mailbox/voicemail fill constantly with complaints.


I feel the same way regarding Brittin. She's sort of caught in the middle. No fault of her own.






I'm promoting RxMedical because they pay a lot more than my second string program and I'll continue to promote, as long as I get wires every Friday. I am still waiting on my past commissions, but I'm a little more patient right now with money in the bank. Perhaps they can start adding our oldcommissions into our new commissions with a payment plan. You know, like 25% at a time, as a good faith effort.





Hmmm....as long as we have people willing to promote an OP in spite of past payment issues, then they (the OP) will believe they can get away with it again, brush this problem under the rug. Don't be too surprised if they screw you again in the future. They'll believe they can get away with it again..and again... so long as they know there are people willing to promote them in spite of it all....

[kcollier63]

CDC,


I'm there with you. When the sh*t hitthe fanMy affiliates and Ipulled out pretty quickly. However, there is still a pretty good chunk of change due from RXM1 and in our case, mostly from Ideal Medical Solutions, the sister site. Loved working with them and would be happy to switch back but we're really waiting to see the money that is already owed before we again switch allegiances. I'm sure there are many out there feeling the same way. I bet that it would be a good business move for the new company to cover the old companies debts. I'm just a little guy (relatively)but I bet a bunch of us little guys can add up in a hurry. smileys/smiley2.gif

[kurkapan]

smileys/smiley7.gifI hate when things go like that.Noone wants to pay and everyone wants his money.If noone moves back their links how will they succeed in the business?They will be forsed to pay in a way and they won't be able to do anything else.I will not move back my links till I see my money.smileys/smiley7.gif

[ROBIN]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_207.gifI got my check!


I haven't had sales at RXM1 in months so no back money was owed me. I never removed the link. Last month I had 1 sale and that is what the check was for. I think as long as i keep my sales low i'll still keep getting the checks smileys/smiley4.gif

[chicago2]

i got a check yesterday too for that first pay period they were back in business.


$50! I'm going to look like a baller at the bank today.

[phalaris]

I got another wire yesterday for my account withIMS. This is the second wire after the March, 08 shutdown. This is a good sign that they intend to pay up and stay in the business.

[chat]

I received a check also for post shut down commissions from links that I had not gotten around to switching over. That's encouraging, however until I receive past due commissions I still don't trust them enough toput my heartinto reconstructing and promoting their web sites.It leaves a very sour taste in my mouth as I am now payingthe advertising expenses that earned sales and commissions that they ran off with.Too bad, they had a good thing going.

[pillz]

I heard back and was told that basically ther's no date as to when and if they'll pay the outstanding back commissions.

[ChesterCoperpot]

Thats fvckin great smileys/smiley7.gif

[NewbiusMaximus]

I heard back and was told that basically ther's no date as to when and if they'll pay the outstanding back commissions.


Pillz, did that come from Brittin or any other official Welton International representative? If so, then here is my proposal; if it's just rumor, then forget about it.


If this is true -Do what has to be done people...knife it. Cut all links, all promotion,all relations. Post in every forum you participate in, what these crooks have done. Spread the word to every contact you have. The same f**kING people with a new god damn name can NOT get away with this. I've been told that it's up to RxMedical to pay us what is owed; a crock of f**king bullsh*t if it's just the samepeople - new name.


Give it a week, then a poll will be started on this "open" forum. Yes or No if youhave stopped promotingpeople whocheated you out of your hard earned money. Show these god damn crooks whatimpact bad businesscanhave towardstheir organization. Don't let Welton International get away with this. Give a mouse a cookie, and it'll ask for a glass of milk. Welton will continually take advantage of you and ask for more if we don't stand up for ourselves now.


Welton International - stop hiding. You read the posts on this forum. Come forward and do what you MUST do. Give a statementabout when we will be paid. MAKE IT HAPPEN! or face the consequences of being the blacklistedOP program to avoid.


Now...back to.is and MTV's, "I want a famous face".

[ChesterCoperpot]

^^ I agree 100%

[NewbiusMaximus]

LOL...so M A R T I N I is censored on this forum? Fine,I'll just have some J„ger (http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&amp;start=3&amp;q=http://www.jagermeister.com/&amp;e=747).


Actually, I think it may be M A R T I N?

[chat]

The poll numbers show that a quarter of us have been paid back commissions. What's up with that? So, I guess they've decided to pay off some of their Aff's who generate the most $? What about the rest?

[Bad Ass Rocker]

I want to know HOW they decided to pay who they paid... That way I can at least get a rough idea of whether I should expect any money or not...

[Bad Ass Rocker]

I heard back and was told that basically ther's no date as to when and if they'll pay the outstanding back commissions.


That still makes no sense to me... If one company acquires another, aren't they left with the liabilities ofthe lattercompany, past and present?

[chat]

Yes they are liable for debts of the previous entity, but they act as if they are untouchable. Hell, when I asked several months before shutdown, they wouldn't even provide theiraddress to me- stating thatthey prefernot to make their address public. Does that give you any clue about the type of people we have been dealing with here?

[PotentMix]

Well, actually, if it was an asset purchase, then the buyer does not take on the seller's liabilities. If it was an acquisition, then the liabilities go with the sale.

[Bad Ass Rocker]

Then does that mean we should be trying to deal with RxMedical instead of Wellton?

[chat]

Well, actually, if it was an asset purchase, then the buyer does not take on the seller's liabilities. If it was an acquisition, then the liabilities go with the sale.


Good point. Well, since they are still using the RxMedicalNetwork name, wouldn't that lead one to believe that this was an acquisition? Also, checks are still being issued from"RxMedicalOne." Does anyone know whether this is coming from the same bank account aswas being used pre-shutdown?

[DaveM]

OK, here's what bothers me most.


Wellton Intl. has not offered us info regarding their physical address, nor telephone number like any normal business would (hell, even HMU has done that). Who's in charge of Accounting? How about a name, phone number and email address.


Not to mention that their front woman will not provide you with a phone number either (claiming that she's waiting for her business line to be installed). Sh*t, with all the money they are holding, she could have a cell phone and satellite phone installed! And by the way, where has she been anyway. Noticably absent from any participation here at any other OP forums as well. I wouldn't want the heat either but it's not like she didn't know what she was getting into.


Yet, they have your Social Security Numbers, addresses, phone numbers, email addresses,and now want your bank information in order to provide you with ACH.


Plus, they have never come clean with the truth surrounding their sudden shutdown and sale of the original business.

[rf33]

What about the case where it was a "move the company offshore to a country with bearer corporations to hide behind" instead of an asset purchase or an acquisition?

[RxRob]

And by the way, where has she been anyway.





She's celebrating Easter with your money...err, I mean...her family. Your wire should be there tomorrow or Friday at the latest. smileys/smiley17.gif

[chat]

OK, here's what bothers me most.


Wellton Intl. has not offered us info regarding their physical address, nor telephone number like any normal business would (hell, even HMU has done that). Who's in charge of Accounting? How about a name, phone number and email address.





I don't believe they're back in it for the long haul. They seem to be hiding in the shadows for some reason.Paying off the top 20% of the Aff's may have ensured them some short term sales, but what possible legtimate reason could there be for holding out on the remaining commission payments?Their silence on this issue is not a good sign that the reasons behind thisare benign.

[Thinker]

They owe me money from before the shutdown and have not paid me a dime since they reopened.I was told the check was in the mail two weeks ago. If I dont get paid this Friday, I am closing down all their sites I run.


If they only want whales, then fine. They are my third best converting sites anyway. Besides getting paid was supposed to be part of the deal.

[kurkapan]

I have Dave Glass's phone.Talked some times with him but still nothing.He talks like he wants to pay me but we'll see about that in a couple of hours when I call him again...smileys/smiley2.gif

[DaveM]

While you got him on the phone ask him the address of Wellton Intl., who's in charge of accounts payable, their phone number and extention and so on. You know the things any business would normally make available.


What role does he actually play with RxMedical/Wellton Int.?

[fleet11]

The only way to get RXMed's attention is financially. We would all have to agree to cut ties. The problem is that the Whales have been paid so their is little chance that they would unify with the smaller guys to cut ties with RXMed. If affiliates had a way to band together we would have a voice and could make a difference. Until we can unify as a group, companies like this will continue to not pay us and not communicate with us.


Let's here from some of the bigger players and see if they would be willing to cut ties with RXMed until they start communicating and paying. This might even be a good poll to post.


I promise you if we all (small and big players) dropped our links at the same time it would not even take a week forRXMed to start communicating.


What do you think?

[NewbiusMaximus]

I'm in. Again, I will be conducting a Poll Monday to see who has dropped their links and affiliation with WillyWonka Int. if we don't see payment by Monday.


I think with a lot of us "average joes" dropping links, it'll get their attention. I was pulling an average of 1500k to 2k a week in new commission sales before the shutdown. I don't know what that would be in gross sales, but if you add up the amount of affiliates like us, it will definatelybe a chunk of cash these guys are going miss out on. And if they think they'll just make it up in new recruitments, they'll have to think again. If we unify as a group to spread the word in every possible affiliate arena, we'll get these A-holes blacklisted.

[kurkapan]

ok im also in.

[fleet11]

redex where are you? Are you in?

[FlippyOdegard]

redex where are you? Are you in?


&lt;insert laughing emoticon here&gt;


Even I, who hasn't been paid past due amounts, won't pull my links, so I'm guessing you won't get Redex to do it either. Since I've been paid for current amounts, I'm not pulling my links. It's not because I don't support those of you who haven't been paid, it's that I can't afford to switch my links to my second string. The crap OPs have whittled my choices down - locked out of HMU (for no reason and w/o notice), YourRxBiz doesn't convert my traffic and Rx-Mex "forgets" to pay affiliates for weeks on end. So, I have two choices for my traffic right now and I'm choosing the one who pays the most. I just did my taxes and since I'm deeply in debt to the IRS, I need the OP that converts and pays the most. Sorry. smileys/smiley6.gif

[PotentMix]

I just received a check for the week ending 4/2. With it, I don't have much fire left in the belly for a boycott. Greenback salve lessens the pain.

[Steve]

You guys want a union? You have my full support.


I would be willing to set up a website, who's ok who's not?


This thread in particular interests me, maybe because I have been paid.


I have been stung quite badly in the past.


But, another website regards affiliate grumbles has been done before


Guys, just pull your links and move on

[Thinker]

Has anyone contacted Brit lately? She has been a no show all week. Maybe she is fed up already.smileys/smiley3.gif

[nightowl]

Has anyone contacted Brit lately? She has been a no show all week. Maybe she is fed up already.smileys/smiley3.gif


Lastthing I heard from her, they (Wellton's management) were reviewing our pre-shutdown debtsand deciding what to do about it. smileys/smiley22.gifLet's hope they do the right thing and pay up. (I can't imagine RxMedical would renege on these debts. EvenHMU (EVA) paid up when they went offshore.HMU was flamed on this board for being sneaky (charging aprocessing fee for checks or wires without telling us, issueswith refills, etc.) I tell ya, if Rxmedical decides to renege on these debts, thenthey will be labeled asthieves, plain and simple. Not just "sneaky", but outright thieves. This was a smooth transition and ourstatus as Rxmedical affiliates didn't change:No bankrupcy proceedings of the old company nor having tosign up again with a new company.


At the very least, I refuse to spend another dime in PPC or my time in SEO to promote them until they pay up.

[redex]

redex where are you? Are you in?


You would have to pay me $30,000 a week to pull my links. Sorry.

[DaveM]

Just a hypothetical question redex. Based on your figure above, had RxMedical not paid you the $30K owed in past commissions, what would you have done or would you have just "moved on"?


See a lot of these Affiliates here look up to several of you guys and most of them are just seeking quidence since no one really expects not to be compensated for fulling their end of a business agreement. So your honesty and experience, I'm sure, would be very helpful to them.

[IWorkForFree]

They don't have a decision to make. They are responsible period.

[PotentMix]

After all the hoopla about signing up for wire transfer, which I have done, I didn't receive a wire today. Anyone else?

[Gavin]

After all the hoopla about signing up for wire transfer, which I have done, I didn't receive a wire today. Anyone else?


Its 7:20am west coast time. Give me a break.

[chicago2]

mine went through in the afternoon last time

[redex]

Just a hypothetical question redex. Based on your figure above, had RxMedical not paid you the $30K owed in past commissions, what would you have done or would you have just "moved on"?


See a lot of these Affiliates here look up to several of you guys and most of them are just seeking quidence since no one really expects not to be compensated for fulling their end of a business agreement. So your honesty and experience, I'm sure, would be very helpful to them.





Dave, for what it's worth here, and I do not know the whole story or for thatmatter, any of it. I see it as Rx Medical One, Inc.sold their OP software system and obviously offered doctor and pharmacy connections to Welton. Welton is scrambling to get the money machine rolling so we all can make money. Welton bought the software and is loading and tweaking on new servers to make it work. I fully support their efforts as their program offerings appear to mirror those of the former RxMedical. Hampering their efforts to get the software and servers setup by plaguing them with money questions from the previous owners is not allowing support requests for bug reports, etc to get in. Consequently the system is still ironing out the wrinkles. I am now an affiliate of Welton not Rx Medical One, Inc. I am sure they will do their best to try and get you guys paid, but they need to be profitable first so they can pay and I support them. This is a new company guys and girls, you are barking up the wrong tree.


(as Redex sees it)

[phonehome]

This is a new company guys and girls, you are barking up the wrong tree.


If this is the case, and we haven't been told formally that it is, we need to start proceedings against the former owners for non payment of debt.


Does anyone havecontact and address details for both the former and present owners?

[chat]

[/QUOTE]


I am sure they will do their best to try and get you guys paid, but they need to be profitable first so they can pay and I support them.


(as Redex sees it)


[/QUOTE]


I think everyone's point here is:the money has long ago been collected by RxMed/Welton or whomever they are, fromsales that wegenerated in February and March. What happened to that?Our questions about this are responded to by vagueness or silence, so I don't think many of us are buying the "we're adifferent company" deal. Unless someone stole the money, I am having a problem understanding why it is still necessary to withhold two or three weeks worth of commissions in order to sell/transfer/reorganize/relocate/renamethe company, or whatever the hell is supposed to have happened.

[NewbiusMaximus]

redex is wise as ever. However, there is the outstanding issue of poor communication. There is no excuse. Brittin does her best, but either she is not informed properly or she is holding back information. Either reason is just bad business.


Give us the news - Good or Bad. But don't keep us in the dark and don't give us the run around.Thistype of business/affiliate relationshipis only building a bad Rap for a "new" company.

[Thinker]

I got my first check from Rx today - commission from a couple of weeks ago. No hint of the before the shutdown money owed. Did not get a wire today.

[ChesterCoperpot]

I am now an affiliate of Welton not Rx Medical One, Inc.


I dont think so. All the checks for current payments say Rx Medical One, Incon them.



You would have to pay me $30,000 a week to pull my links. Sorry.


Im missing 2 1/2 weeks worth of payments from them. Would you still be promoting them if they owed you $75,000? I doubt it.

[killroy]

Well, just to show all sides... so far, I recieved my outstanding pay about a week after a few emails went back and forth. The first payment of the very first week back in business was about $100 and never showed. The second payment was just a few days late and included th first two weeks. S Now I'm completely back on track, and unless this payment is late, they are even with me.

SN

[redex]

Hey guys, don't pick me apart. Dave asked my opinion/insight and I gave it. smileys/smiley4.gif

[DaveM]

Redex,


Your argument has merit. However, if you bought a company's assets (in this case the software, customer base, and affliate list) would you not come forward and make known the people who are responsible for failure to pay so that all of the aggression could be directed to the proper place?


That does not seem to be the case though. They, through their own statements, seem to accept responsibility fo prior debts. In addition, if this was indeed a new company, there sure are a lot of the same players involved. Moreover, technical support and accounting are two seperate business functions usually handled by different people. Unless of course their tech people are also doing the books which highly doubt. So the statment about not being able to do two things at once, accounting and tech support, doesn't seem to hold water either.


I believe that most affiliates would being willing to work with RxMedical if they would only be upfront about their situation and intentions. Instead, we get vague information about this new organization and how "Managment is working on it".


Although there is a lot of money at stake here, it really comes down to principle. If you act shady your going to be preceived as shady. For those of you who have been paid both past due and current, that's great! But with all of those who have not, would you recommend this program to someone you really cared about? If you have to think about it the answer is no!

[Thinker]

Something STINKS about this whole situation. On this forum, people should comment when they know the facts.


Fact is, I was told I would have to wait for a check because they were setting up a bank account overseas - Bull S**t.


The check I got Friday is from the same exact banking institution:





RxMedical One, Inc.


Union Bank of California

[redex]

Redex,


Your argument has merit. However, if you bought a company's assets (in this case the software, customer base, and affliate list) would you not come forward and make known the people who are responsible for failure to pay so that all of the aggression could be directed to the proper place?


If they bought the receivables, then they also bought the payables. I was told they bought the software.

[Thinker]

Redex,


Your argument has merit. However, if you bought a company's assets (in this case the software, customer base, and affliate list) would you not come forward and make known the people who are responsible for failure to pay so that all of the aggression could be directed to the proper place?


If they bought the receivables, then they also bought the payables. I was told they bought the software.





It's not that simple or this becomes a sham transaction. They were still shipping medications - who was getting paid from the credit card company? When did the transfer occur? How were the fulfillment people getting paid?


Why is it that they still have the same bank account? Why pay anyone at all for pre-transition commissions? Even you said that you wouldn't turn off links. According to your argument, they didn't owe anyone anything.


Even I've stated here that I've accepted that those commissions will never be paid. But please don't try and justify their actions with simple statements like "they[only] bought the software."

[PotentMix]

No wire received yesterday as promised.

[NewbiusMaximus]

Suprised? smileys/smiley8.gif

[kurkapan]

smileys/smiley7.gif

[phonehome]

no wire

[chat]

Redex,


Your argument has merit. However, if you bought a company's assets (in this case the software, customer base, and affliate list) would you not come forward and make known the people who are responsible for failure to pay so that all of the aggression could be directed to the proper place?


If they bought the receivables, then they also bought the payables. I was told they bought the software.





It's not that simple or this becomes a sham transaction. They were still shipping medications - who was getting paid from the credit card company? When did the transfer occur? How were the fulfillment people getting paid?


Why is it that they still have the same bank account? Why pay anyone at all for pre-transition commissions? Even you said that you wouldn't turn off links. According to your argument, they didn't owe anyone anything.


Even I've stated here that I've accepted that those commissions will never be paid. But please don't try and justify their actions with simple statements like "they[only] bought the software."





RxMed/Welton would not have paid some affiliates pre-transition commisions unless they know that they are obligated to do so. That means that they must currentlyhave controlover thefundsfrom the sales that occured pre-shutdown. The fact that they have not paid all of their affiliatescould only mean thatthe rest ofusareless important to them financially. Since they are paying current commissions, I'll bet most of us whiners are still promoting them anyway - am I right?I'd like to know what happened to the rest of thepre-transition commissionmoney that was collected from these sales - who is sitting on it and why?

[nightowl]

RxMed/Welton would not have paid some affiliates pre-transition commisions unless they know that they are obligated to do so. That means that they must currentlyhave controlover thefundsfrom the sales that occured pre-shutdown. The fact that they have not paid all of their affiliatescould only mean thatthe rest ofusareless important to them financially.


Great point! smileys/smiley2.gifThis clearly shows thatWelton IS in control of who gets paid for the pre-shutdown debts, and/or least is playing favoritism toward the whales in order to get their continued business. They (Welton) realize it's the smart thing to do (i.e. to keep the whales happy). But what this also implies is that they don't give a sh*t about the little guys.



Since they are paying current commissions, I'll bet most of us whiners are still promoting them anyway - am I right?I'd like to know what happened to the rest of thepre-transition commissionmoney that was collected from these sales - who is sitting on it and why?


I'm sure some ofus "whiners" have stopped promoting them via PPC engines and some have even switched out their links. But I'm guessing most of us"whiners" aresitting on the sidelines, waiting on the final verdict before we do a MASS EXODUS.

[PillRoller]

I signed up for ACH, but received a check instead. Oh well.. at least I got paid.

[Steve]

I don't agree, maybe I'm a whale? but it makes sense business wise to keep several hundred "small affiliates" happy rather than a few whales.


They mess with with me "A whale" links would be cut almost imediately unless I get good reasons and explanations.


So why would they put all eggs in one basket with a few whales?


You guys who comparatively each make small commissions are a powerful force, trouble is you cannot see that. Collectively you are the Moby Dick"


Just cut links and move on if not convinced you will be paid.

[cdc71]

GOT PAIDsmileys/smiley4.gif

[RxBroke]

Well, I'm one of the new little guys who's making less than a $10 per week on this, but I'm holding off till Wednesday to see if I'm being paid or not. I have other sites I'm ready to switch over so I can make more than a $10 per week, if I see that I'll get paid. If I'm not paid, I'll have to move on before I sink myself.

[NewbiusMaximus]

cdc71,


More details please...smileys/smiley1.gif

[MrMullet]

nothing yet, but i think i put my ACH info wrong and probably changed it too late

[cdc71]

NewbiusMaximus,


I received checks today for all back pay.


I'll be turning the switch back on for rxmedical...


CDC71


Not a Whale...

[fleet11]

I received checks for most of my pre closing commissions. This is a good thing. smileys/smiley1.gif

[ChesterCoperpot]

Cool, They seem to be paying people slowly but surely i guess.


CAN I BE NEXT PLEASE? IM STILL WAITINGsmileys/smiley4.gif

[NewbiusMaximus]

Wow, well I'm glad you got yours....hope I get mine. If they are paying out now, what's the harm in notifying us?

[nightowl]

This is startingto sound very encouraging. It's beginning to look as though they'repaying out the pre-shutdown debtsnot justto thewhales but to everyone they owe(?).Let'shope so. (Hee Haw! Will I be next?)

[Steve]

Just before rxmed1 closed the door, we was doing anything from 8 to 15k per week.


So I got nervous when they went down. ( I have been stung before)


In fact I put all sites up for sale ( I don't need this sh*t..again me thinks)


I had a couple of fairly resonable offers, but declined to to sell.


Anyhow we did get paid in full, previous and after sales. In the mean time when I was deciding what to do, the new company arrives ( I had no clue, except for a criptic message, "we may be back in business shortly"!.


I did a test with rxmex with one site, 8hrs online made $150, guess what, never got paid...


There are far worst companies to deal with.


I am not singing praises for the new rxmed1 company, a lot of stuff needs more clarification, especially affiliate support.


But they do pay.


For me at least

[Joe 90]

I was just wondering if anyone bothers usingspell checker? Sorry to go off topic, but bad spelling and grammar bugs the crap out of me.smileys/smiley8.gif

[redex]

Just wondering if anyone bothers usingspell checker? Sorry to go off topic, but bad spelling and grammar bugs the crap out of me smileys/smiley8.gif





You forgot a period at the end of your second sentence. And you should have started out with "I was just wondering...." LOL smileys/smiley8.gif

[andrew13]

Just FYI ...

I'm completely paid, they had to pay me around $40K, paid recently all
the money and I get all wires for the new comissions in time, just as
it was before switch. smileys/smiley16.gif

[kurkapan]

hey andrew are you really 13 years old or it is just a number in your nick?smileys/smiley2.gif

[andrew13]

hey andrew are you really 13 years old or it is just a number in your nick?smileys/smiley2.gif year i'm 13 years old and only think about how to earn $$$ smileys/smiley8.gif

[NewbiusMaximus]

...how to spam blogs, cloak, kid things like that. smileys/smiley2.gifsmileys/smiley8.gif

[NewbiusMaximus]

I just received my back pay today! smileys/smiley17.gifMinus about $400 according to what I was orginally told I would be paid, but I'll take it.


Now, once I get my wire I'll be all caught up.

[NewbiusMaximus]

Opps...nevermind about the wire...lot's of envelopes...I missed the check they sent instead for week 3.27.2004-4.02.2004.

[ChesterCoperpot]

I just received my back pay today! smileys/smiley17.gif





By wire or check?

[Joe 90]

Just wondering if anyone bothers usingspell checker? Sorry to go off topic, but bad spelling and grammar bugs the crap out of me smileys/smiley8.gif





You forgot a period at the end of your second sentence. And you should have started out with "I was just wondering...." LOL smileys/smiley8.gif





I don't know what you mean, Redex. smileys/smiley2.gif

[NewbiusMaximus]

All by check.

[kurkapan]

I received my 3/20-26 today.Issued on 8th of april.[which is 1 week behind]

[PotentMix]

Again, in spite of the switch to wire transfers we've been required to sign up for, no funds have been received. They were promised last Friday, 4/16.


Does anyone expect these folks to keep us informed about this?smileys/smiley6.gif

[Typhoon-]

Does anyone have a telephone number of RxMedical? As I mailed Brittin twice and filled in the required info at the site, and still no reply on my emails and more important no wiresmileys/smiley6.gif

[RxBroke]

Why won't they just answer a simple email? I'm becoming frustrated and my sales are over $10 per week...not a whale but hey I want to get paid too...

[chicago2]

Brittin seems to answer most emails I have sent within the business day. I am broke and not happy to not be paid but I am sure I will feel better as soon as that ach goes through.

[kurkapan]

is ach only for us?

[chicago2]

is ach only for us?


if you are asking me that I am not sure what you mean

[lostjeremy]

I just got an email today stating:





Dear (Me):


We apologize for the delay in getting your commissions to you for the pay period 4/3/04-4/9/04.


We have verified with our automatic payment company that you will receive your money, in your account, tomorrow.


Thank you!


Affiliate Relations


Wellton International














I guess we'll see what happens tomorrow.

[PotentMix]

I got it too. This is getting better. Keeping in touch with affiliates in this manner will pay big dividends for them.

[DaveM]

WhenI responded to that email with the question as to whether past due commissions would also be included in that ACH transfer, this is the response I received:


"It will be paid when funds become available. This is a debt from RxMedical and Wellton is willing to pay the affiliates in order to keep them sending orders but it will take some time."


So keep selling your asses off so that I and the otherunfortunateaffiliates who haven't been paid can get what's owed us!

[DaveM]

Another week has gone by and RxMedical has made no effort to clear up it's debt owed to their affiliates.


In order to get this problem resolved, this subject must kept in the forefront not only in this forum but at others as well. RxMedical would like nothing better then for this issue to be forgotten. Don't let it happen until all affiliates have been paid what is rightfully owed them.

[winfreecash]

I agree Dave. I gave them a shot and put their links back figuring if we were supportive in making them $$$ that it would help with those back payments...but so far a big fat goose egg in my back pay. Has ANYONE received back pay recently??

[RxRob]

Nothing here. smileys/smiley19.gif

[kurkapan]

same here.

[gutterman]

Igot a check for about half (1 week) of back commissions two weeks ago and my ACH deposits (although small) two times.

[redex]

I agree Dave. I gave them a shot and put their links back figuring if we were supportive in making them $$$ that it would help with those back payments...but so far a big fat goose egg in my back pay. Has ANYONE received back pay recently??


I am getting forward pay - the area I concentrate on - the future.

[winfreecash]

I agree Dave. I gave them a shot and put their links back figuring if we were supportive in making them $$$ that it would help with those back payments...but so far a big fat goose egg in my back pay. Has ANYONE received back pay recently??


I am getting forward pay - the area I concentrate on - the future.





Easy to say since you are one of the select few that got paid.

[chat]

No back pay... still, despite promisses that it was comming.smileys/smiley6.gif

[Thinker]

I agree Dave. I gave them a shot and put their links back figuring if we were supportive in making them $$$ that it would help with those back payments...but so far a big fat goose egg in my back pay. Has ANYONE received back pay recently??


I am getting forward pay - the area I concentrate on - the future.





I make plans for the future, but I learn from history.smileys/smiley2.gif


What is forward pay anyway - are they paying you for future sales?smileys/smiley5.gif


No back pay for me either. I've made the decision to give up on the RxMedical program altogether. I'm not going to fund their future.

[phonehome]

No back pay, despite reassurances.


I'll be staying on the case, however.

[RxRob]

I agree Dave. I gave them a shot and put their links back figuring if we were supportive in making them $$$ that it would help with those back payments...but so far a big fat goose egg in my back pay. Has ANYONE received back pay recently??


I am getting forward pay - the area I concentrate on - the future.





Easy to say since you are one of the select few that got paid.





LOL no sh*t, win. smileys/smiley17.gif


There's nothing like some salt on your wounds.

[RxRob]

I'm not going to fund their future.





I think we already did. smileys/smiley3.gif

[ChesterCoperpot]

Nope Still not paid.smileys/smiley7.gif


Last i heard they were paying off old commisisons as they can afford them. Gimme a F'ing break, they make enough in a week to pay all of us off.

[rf33]

Chester,


They may "make" enough in a week, but remember that their merchant account likely keeps a large chunk of what they make in a rolling reserve. Not trying to defend their actions, but for an OP (or any high risk business), the merchant banks keep a pretty tight clamp on the money.

[ChesterCoperpot]

I have a hard time believing they cant afford to pay us.

[phonehome]

They may "make" enough in a week, but remember that their merchant account likely keeps a large chunk of what they make in a rolling reserve. Not trying to defend their actions, but for an OP (or any high risk business), the merchant banks keep a pretty tight clamp on the money.


So why are theyusing the sales force asaline of credit?


Having adequate cashflow to pay people is simply a cost, and a necessity,of doing business. If you can't meet the cost of operating your sales team, then that isn't thefault of the sales team, nor should it be made their problem.


Tends to piss 'em off.....

[NewbiusMaximus]

Well, they could put some effort into investigating why conversions dropped so badly on the shopping cart. 36 hits on the cart since Sunday and I got 1 unique sale.smileys/smiley5.gif


This is either the worst streak of bad luck, or there's something f**ked up on the cart page(s).

[redex]

Well, they could put some effort into investigating why conversions dropped so badly on the shopping cart. 36 hits on the cart since Sunday and I got 1 unique sale.smileys/smiley5.gif


This is either the worst streak of bad luck, or there's something f**ked up on the cart page(s).





OR you need more traffic. Send a thousand people to the cart every day and watch your conversions go up. smileys/smiley8.gif

[phonehome]

No wire received this week, despite assurances.


No backpay received, despite assurances.


Conversions way down.


Not looking good from this end....

[rf33]

I was not trying to condone using the affiliates as a line of credit, just trying to affirm that is what they do. It does stink, and it does make people angry, but it is a reality of the business. Cash flow problems are a nature of any business, especially of a "new" company, which - at least to the banks, they are.

[seodoc]

Cash flow problems are a nature of any business, especially of a "new" company, which - at least to the banks, they are.





Are they using a different merchant account then before?

[RxRob]

Can anybody remember what they were doing the day this thread started? smileys/smiley17.gif