View Full Version : No pharmacies are getting shut down
rickdavis
October 22nd, 2003, 10:05 PM
Whats going on is the DEA is cracking down on all controlled substances.. Not closing the pharmacy. The pharmacy just has to drop the controlled drugs.
phentermine,soma, ambien, vicodin etc.
Any pharms selling these are a possible threat and the DEA is getting to them one by one.
So basically we can sell viagra, levitra and other stuff like that.
RXnetwork and lifeline are in business right now. Just cant sell many drugs like before.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/7076654.htm
As an affiliate speaking, without being able to sell phentermine its worthless promoting pharm.
Affiliate
October 22nd, 2003, 10:20 PM
As an affiliate speaking, without being able to sell phentermine its worthless promoting pharm.
I have to disagree. You can live of Viagra and Levitra commission. Too bad I mostly market for phentermine. DOH!
rickdavis
October 22nd, 2003, 10:21 PM
profit on viagra is very low. And its very saturated.
Affiliate
October 22nd, 2003, 10:23 PM
I've never earned less than $30 on a viagra sale. Phentermine isn't saturated?
gman
October 23rd, 2003, 12:19 AM
"As an affiliate speaking, without being able to sell phentermine its worthless promoting pharm."
Thats the damdest thing I have ever heard.smileys/smiley5.gifI only get about %10 of my sales from phentermine and i'm happy and think its "very" worth it.
redex
October 23rd, 2003, 03:14 AM
The pharmacy just has to drop the controlled drugs.
phentermine,soma, ambien, vicodin etc.
WRONG! Soma is not a controlled substance
As an affiliate speaking, without being able to sell phentermine its worthless promoting pharm.
Bye bye! LOL
redex
October 23rd, 2003, 03:44 AM
From the Miami Herald:
Ellsworth said he was examining the company's legal options. The firm remains open to prescribe Viagra and other drugs that are not DEA-controlled substances.
Two weeks ago, DEA made a similar move against Lifeline Pharmacy, another Davie firm filling Internet prescriptions. That company too continues to operate, but cannot fill controlled-substance prescriptions.
Don't sweat the small stuff. Pull all your phent links from your sites and you can all sleep at night just fine.
Star
October 23rd, 2003, 04:52 AM
who makes money on viagra? i don't
iggy
October 23rd, 2003, 05:43 AM
redex, I admire your optimism.
But, many feel that this is the first step only and that there will inevetibly be federal legislation to regulate all prescriptions written through telphone or internet forms.
Yes, it makes sense for the dea to first target controlled substances as it is a bit easier to gather support for. However, the concern is that their goal is to eliminate the abilty of online pharmacy's to fill ANY prescriptions via an online consultation.
As far as the ongoing debate on whether you can make money or not without the controlled substances, of course you can.
It is silly, though, to talk about how great you can or cannot do. To some people $10,000 per month profit is great, to others $100,000 per month profit is great. It all depends on what your situation is.
redex
October 23rd, 2003, 06:35 AM
It is silly, though, to talk about how great you can or cannot do. To some people $10,000 per month profit is great, to others $100,000 per month profit is great. It all depends on what your situation is.
I would be happy with either of those in the past, now or in the future. There aren't a lot of 9-5s that pay 10K a month, one or two that pay 100k (none that I could get) and none will let you work in your underware unless you are hooking of course. smileys/smiley8.gif
A lot of people have had the taste of big money and now they don't know what to do if it came to an end. Especially the Jimmy Buffett types that made enough money to buy Miami but pissed it away so fast. If you were smart, diversified your offerings, packed a sh*tload of money away for a rainy day or better yet, invested it wisely and, oh yeah, didn't rely on Phent as a living, you could survive without worry.
iggy
October 23rd, 2003, 06:41 AM
redex, i agree 100% with what you have said.
pillz
October 23rd, 2003, 07:08 AM
I see the online pharm biz evolving and growing. Now instead of an online form, the smart OP's will have a dr. netowrk in place and pay the customers a visit. After this then the patient can order their scripts. The world isn't ending here, it's just muturing and evolving. First OP to get this rolling will do well sales wise. From what I understnad most of the OP's are already looking into this.
RxRob
October 23rd, 2003, 09:09 AM
Yeah, I can see a doctor driving 50 miles out to Bumf**ked Idaho to look at the genitals of a customer looking to score a script for Valtrex...
...and for $10 at thatsmileys/smiley4.gif
smokey
October 23rd, 2003, 09:15 AM
With technology why can't the online doctors coloberate medical records online similar to webmd.com. Doesn't webmd.com also provide online prescriptions?
redex
October 23rd, 2003, 11:24 AM
Can you spell HIPAA
rxcdn
October 23rd, 2003, 02:55 PM
Yeah, I can see a doctor driving 50 miles out to Bumf**ked Idaho to look at the genitals of a customer looking to score a script for Valtrex...
...and for $10 at thatsmileys/smiley4.gif
LOL, RxRob,you never fail to amuse me. smileys/smiley4.gif
MarketingMaster
October 23rd, 2003, 03:12 PM
For once I agree with RedEx. :)
Anyone wanting to bail out, go ahead. I'll be here making money while you scrounge for another program. The end isn't near, this will evolve. So phentermine sales stop? What will people do? Maybe buy Adipex or another? Anyone think of that? Holy Sh*t!!!! TheMarketingMaster strikes back! Think aobut it, it has happened with other industries.....why won't these patients follow suit? No reason why they can't.
There will never be an end as long as Brian and the other great OP leaders pay their lawyers to find a way we can keep doing this. I commend them on staying on top of this.
Affiliate
October 23rd, 2003, 03:26 PM
So phentermine sales stop? What will people do? Maybe buy Adipex or another? Anyone think of that? Holy Sh*t!!!! TheMarketingMaster strikes back!
Ummm... phentermine 37.5 is the generic form of Adipex.
chicago
October 23rd, 2003, 03:34 PM
oh god
MarketingMaster
October 23rd, 2003, 03:35 PM
duuuuuuuhhhhhh
redex
October 23rd, 2003, 03:36 PM
There will never be an end as long as Brian and the other great OP leaders pay their lawyers to find a way we can keep doing this. I commend them on staying on top of this.
that's why there are lawyers. the lawmakers always f**k up the laws and leave them full of grey debatable areas or big-ass loopholes.
MarketingMaster
October 23rd, 2003, 04:09 PM
WIth ya 100% Redex.smileys/smiley17.gif
drugsdr
October 23rd, 2003, 04:15 PM
WIth ya 100% Redex.smileys/smiley17.gif
brown nose
medicineman
October 23rd, 2003, 04:52 PM
I don't see where the Miami Herald says the DEA siezed phentermine. I do see where it says they siezed diet pills, but not saying what kind.
Is it assumed diet pills means phentermine. Couldn't it mean amphentemine which I understand is controlled. Or is phentermine and amphentemine the same stuff or if not, is phentermine definitely a controlled substance?
Sorry for the dumb questions, but just trying to get this clarified.
PotentMix
October 23rd, 2003, 05:00 PM
This whole DEA/FDA ruckus is filled with the worst kind of hypocrisy. There's a drug called alcohol (yes, the AMA classifies it as a drug) which is more toxic and addictive than most of the so called controlled substances.
There will always be addicts, and the notion that the addict can be helped by setting up legal barriers to him/her obtaining a supply is ludicrous on its face. Just consider the abysmal failure in the war on drugs. If someone wants Oxycontin, by God, they'll get it one way or another.
Alcohol kills many times as many people annually as all of the controlled substances, legal and illegal, combined. In our culture we wax hysterical when it comes to drugs. But alcohol, hey bring it on!
The only difference between alcohol and "drugs" is the fact that alcohol is legal and costs far less.
I'm by no means suggesting that anything at all ought to be done about alcohol other than trying to educate minors, and throwing the book at drunk drivers. I'm only saying that, in considering the effects on society in terms of death rates and health care costs, this hysteria and reaction over controlled substances is misplaced.
And that's my soapbox sermon for today.
RxRob
October 23rd, 2003, 05:22 PM
I'm with you. I lost a nephew to a drunk driver, not a obese woman buying phentermine from her den.
medicineman
October 23rd, 2003, 05:24 PM
After some reasearch, it looks like I can answer my own question regarding whether or not phentermine is a DEA controlled substance. It's listed as a DEA Schedule IV controlled substance, as a stimulant drug ....
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/21cfr/cfr/1308/1308_14.htm (http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/21cfr/cfr/1308/1308_14.htm)
kaylowe
October 24th, 2003, 08:01 AM
May I point out that neither Meridia nor Xenical are controlled substances. I know that they may not be big sellers, but perhaps customers will try those if they cannot get amphetamines. Weight loss is a big issue; look at how these herbal supplements and other gadgets (not to mention a new diet every other week) sell. And most MDs are reluctant to rx phentermine.
Kay
redex
October 24th, 2003, 08:03 AM
Do you all really believe fat people are buying phent?? LOL
iggy
October 24th, 2003, 08:04 AM
not amny but some are. i know at least one :)
chicago
October 24th, 2003, 08:07 AM
wow redex, I am sure your comments about phenwill really help the online prescription industry thrive and fight the legal battles.
redex
October 24th, 2003, 08:09 AM
I just look at order history and patters to form my opinions, biased as they are, people on a diet don't run out of speed three weeks early with a one month supply. smileys/smiley3.gif
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