Submit to 1 Trillion Search Engines deal

[lostjeremy]

I see these sites offering these services for $20-$200 for submissions to 100,000 search engines and what not. I have always just used the free submissions to 20-30 of the main search engines and results have been nothing to complain about. Curious if these paysubmission plans are worth the few $'s or just continue on with the free submissions?

[PotentMix]

Save your money. Spend some more time and/or money building new sites/pages. Optimize. You'll get a much bigger bang for your buck, and avoid gargantuan influxes of spam.

[insanity]

Question: could you even name 1000 search engines? Seriously it's a scam. The main ones people use are:


Google


Yahoo!


MSN


Personally I feel if you concentrate on them you'll do fine in the other few that drive a few visitors.

[phonehome]

continue on with the free submissions


Yes. Don't pay for submissions - it's a scam. The "engines" on the list may not have much, if any,traffic, so are therefore worthless to you.

[scottdaman]

1000 submits. Hehe, welcome to worthless FFA pages and loads of spam. Save your money and submit manual. Actually, I never even submit anymore, typically it takes me 1 week to get a new site indexed by use of reciprocal links.


If you are a new webmaster, than maybe submitting will help. But link begging 10 good sites to reciprocate, priceless. Use the money for a good SEO if you feel like paying for something.

[insanity]

Save your money and submit manual. Actually, I never even submit anymore, typically it takes me 1 week to get a new site indexed by use of reciprocal links.


Yup no need to submit - just concentrate on geting some links. Some good places to start are Open Directory (www.dmoz.org (http://www.dmoz.org)), Skaffe.com and GoGuides.com. Plus like Scottdaman said concentrate on some reciprocal liks too.

[scottdaman]

dmoz, attempt to get friendly with a moderator.smileys/smiley2.gif


I still think dmoz is a better value (free) than yahoo's categories. But since Yahoo is doing thir own results (sort of), who knows anymore. I quit following this crap and started making more sites.


Since then, I'm making a hell of a lot more and no high blood pressure.

[insanity]

Or become a DMoz editor. smileys/smiley2.gif

[lostjeremy]

Thanks for all the replys. I am fairly new to the SEO stuff. I am pleased with the results I am getting from my pharmacy affiliate sites but know they could do much better also. I probably will invest in hiring an SEO firm to do what they can with one of my sites and just learn what they do with it and duplicate it with my other sites. Anyone recommend or discourage one SEO firm/website over another?

[scottdaman]

Remember, a highly ranked single site can be used to raise the levels on any other site you choose.

[redex]

Fact:


There are only three search engines


There are NO reputable SEO firms.

[phonehome]

There are NO reputable SEO firms.


There are some.


However the posteris unlikely to get anyone good to doSEO forhim in pharma. If the SEO knows what they are doing,they'll bein the game themselves, be wanting a huge cut, or know not to offer services to clients in such a competitive field.


The restdefinately don't know what they're doing, and they're certainly not worth paying.

[scottdaman]

phonehome, I agree with your statement. That's why I said, with a good highly ranked site (doesn't have to be OP), you can use that to increase your ranks on many other sites with a strategic linking system.


Redexsmileys/smiley29.gif

[scottdaman]

Fact: a fourth engine is only good to the SEO at heart. alltheweb.com.

[lostjeremy]

Again thanks for all the info. I have been working on recip. links the past week. Anyone have any suggestions as to any good recip. links sites? So far I have only been focusing on other online pharmacies to trade links with. Oh yeah if anyone here wants to swap links send me a PM. (Hopefully thats not out of line)

[phonehome]

That's why I said, with a good highly ranked site (doesn't have to be OP), you can use that to increase your ranks on many other sites with a strategic linking system.


Certainly. I was replying to Redex. I agree with you both, just wanted to clarify one point - that any SEO who can do pharma well will be a) very expensive or b) one of your competitors :)


Any SEO who takes you as a clientin pharma, and is cheap, almostcertainly doesn't understandthe market. As a test, try going tohighrankings.com/forum/, which is mostly full of lower level seos, andtell them you want to buy SEO services, then tell them what area you're in.


Watch 'emrun :)

[insanity]

Any SEO who takes you as a clientin pharma, and is cheap, almostcertainly doesn't understandthe market. As a test, try going to http://www.highrankings.com/forum/, which is mostly full of lower level seos, andtell them you want to buy SEO services, then tell them what area you're in.


Watch 'emrun :)


LOL. smileys/smiley8.gif


Another option is to spend time at places like http://www.webmasterworld.com/and learn yourself. smileys/smiley2.gif

[scottdaman]

phonehome, LOL. smileys/smiley8.gif