View Full Version : Are you kidding me????
MedMan
October 27th, 2003, 09:29 AM
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<TD>.PRIVATE.Future Date set to 04/06/2004 by user hedwards3</TD></TR></T></T></TABLE>
WTF?!?! Held for 5 1/2 months? I think Hedwards has really gone off the deep end this time! smileys/smiley11.gifsmileys/smiley11.gif
RxRob
October 27th, 2003, 09:42 AM
That's insane!
I just got another double reject today by hedwards. He denies a prescription and sets a future date, then once that day comes he denies it again and sets yet another future date!!!!!! smileys/smiley5.gif
Unreal!
I think he is taking EVA for a ride.
Star
October 27th, 2003, 09:52 AM
What may be happening is between those times the patient orders from another EVA site and therefore your order doesn't get processed. I don't have access to that feature anymore, but you'll be amazed at the number of differenet sites people order from.
MedMan
October 27th, 2003, 09:56 AM
I see the only reason for a 5 1/2 month delay is because this customer ordered twice in the time it took hedwards to reject this one.
In that case, the customer should (1) not have been allowed to order twice in the first placeor (2) Be banned from ordering again in the future.
I just don't get it. smileys/smiley5.gif
redex
October 27th, 2003, 10:09 AM
EVA needs another doctor!
phalaris
October 27th, 2003, 10:12 AM
Where is Doug these days? You are his second tier and making him money but never hear from him anymore. Isn't he supposed to take some of these issues to EVA? I think any other AD would. Last time I heard of that fellow was when admin posted that he now login under a different username.
redex
October 27th, 2003, 10:24 AM
I thought he got banned!
MarketingMaster
October 27th, 2003, 10:27 AM
Maybe he quit the biz?
redex
October 27th, 2003, 10:33 AM
LOL, it would not be hard to live off his second tier and never have to host a website or make a sale.
MedMan
October 27th, 2003, 10:37 AM
That's if we could get any sales to go through!
I was just about blinded today when I checked my orders! That red sure looks bright when you get to that order page! smileys/smiley3.gifsmileys/smiley3.gifsmileys/smiley5.gif
phalaris
October 27th, 2003, 10:48 AM
Admin posted in another thread 3-4 days back that Doug is not banned, He just switched IDs.
MedMan
October 27th, 2003, 11:06 AM
This is what I see when I open my order page!
ORDER #URANIDIOT smileys/smiley18.gif
ORDER #4USINGEVAsmileys/smiley18.gif
ORDER #HEDWARDS3 smileys/smiley18.gif
ORDER #ISLAUGHING smileys/smiley18.gif
ORDER #ATYOUNOW! smileys/smiley18.gif
redex
October 27th, 2003, 02:49 PM
smileys/smiley16.gif Hey I got one too. 30 Sonata, isn;t that like 1 a day?? February??? The doctor has definitely lost it! smileys/smiley5.gif
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<TD vAlign=top noWrap>Order Id: *****
Date of Order: Thu 10/09/03 02:20:16 PM EDT
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<TD noWrap>Thu 10/09/03 02:27:14 PM EDT</TD>
<TD>Customer notified via email.</TD></TR>
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<TD noWrap>Thu 10/09/03 02:27:14 PM EDT</TD>
<TD>.PRIVATE.Future Date set to 02/19/2004 by user hedwards3</TD></TR>
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<TD noWrap>Thu 10/09/03 02:27:14 PM EDT</TD>
<TD>Prescription denied by doctor.</TD></TR>
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<TD noWrap>Thu 10/09/03 02:27:13 PM EDT</TD>
<TD>.PRIVATE.Doctor Rejected by hedwards3</TD></TR>
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<TD noWrap>Thu 10/09/03 02:20:19 PM EDT</TD>
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Pharmacy316
October 27th, 2003, 02:55 PM
Doug is in Key West for Fantasy Fest?
skeeter
October 27th, 2003, 03:05 PM
call and ask him 850-936-8153 doubt you'll get a ferkin ansa dough or so i say DOH!
chicago
October 27th, 2003, 03:11 PM
I am sure the doc has a reason to decline some of these people. You should be happy he is not letting little Johnny order meds online.
kaylowe
October 27th, 2003, 03:28 PM
Touche, Chicago.
Kay Lowe
redex
October 27th, 2003, 04:18 PM
Doug is in Key West for Fantasy Fest?
I just got off the phone with Doug and he assured me that he is NOT in Key West. smileys/smiley4.gif
He is busy with his business like we should be with ours. Adapting to the changing times. He can be reached anytime at 800-401-0541 or 850-936-8153 anytime orhis regular email director@rxaffiliate.com If you have issues or questions, contact him there.
redex
October 27th, 2003, 04:19 PM
Admin posted in another thread 3-4 days back that Doug is not banned, He just switched IDs.
Hmmm...not the way I heard it smileys/smiley5.gif
EVA-John
October 27th, 2003, 04:26 PM
Doug can login, but is unable to post in the forum. All affiliate inquiries should be directed to him, you can call him at 1-850-936-8153.
manager
October 27th, 2003, 04:40 PM
He should be able to post fine unless its a problem on his end.
Affiliate
October 27th, 2003, 04:56 PM
Doug can login, but is unable to post in the forum.
Tell him to pull the $100 bills out of the keyboard. He must be swimming in money over there. smileys/smiley8.gif
Star
October 27th, 2003, 05:24 PM
What exactly would one be busy doing? Cashing a check once per week? Counting money? EVA does all the work
medstar
October 27th, 2003, 08:41 PM
I told you that Doug is busy working with the DEA to prosecute all his affiliates. He is steadily compiling a list.
medstar
October 27th, 2003, 08:43 PM
Come to think of it, I think Doug is an undercover DEA agent posing as an AD. How many of you are with Doug/DEA?
MedMan
October 27th, 2003, 08:56 PM
Medstar, you need to quit buying meds from yourself! smileys/smiley29.gif
Pharmacy316
October 27th, 2003, 09:03 PM
Not what I heard redex maybe you should meet him in the keyes.
redex
October 28th, 2003, 02:22 AM
What exactly would one be busy doing? Cashing a check once per week? Counting money? EVA does all the work
LOL, that's what I do. Am I doing it wrong? smileys/smiley1.gif
Not what I heard redex maybe you should meet him in the keyes.
Sumbitch, yer right. I see him now smileys/smiley8.gif
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Star
October 28th, 2003, 07:13 AM
It's funny how everyone praised the man in the beginning not knowing how it reallly works. I would run and give up all sites in affiliation now. Don't hesitate. It WAS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE.
Remember as you keep all your vital info there, pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.
redex
October 28th, 2003, 07:57 AM
You have to admit, Doug changed the affiliate's earning potential by leaps and bounds. He also opened the eyes of a lot of OPs who are now scrambling to get back sales. Prior to him offering EVA, the best thing out there was MyRxBiz for earning potential. 50% afterraw pill cost with no fill cost was great. no $20-$30 + 10%-15% could come close to the dollars. Fifty bucks was about your top commission. Now it should be your lowest acceptable commission. (I will admitI do have one at $47.85)Look where we are today, a lot of similar programs, the base prices keep going down and the affiliates earning potential continues to climb (unless the affiliate is lowering his prices as the base prices go down)
Star
October 28th, 2003, 08:26 AM
His prices are still high. People like that are short sighted. I'm sure many will never do business with him again
RxRob
October 28th, 2003, 08:34 AM
Are there anyother "EVA cronies"that have SIGNIFICANTLY lower base prices than Doug?
I'd like to get hooked up directly with EVA. What kind of volume would one need to get an account directly with EVA and not through a Super Affiliate?
phalaris
October 28th, 2003, 08:36 AM
If someone is looking for a case study to prove that lowest prices don't win in the end then they should look at Doug for a perfect example.His basic strategy waslowballing from the day one. He came out with lowest base prices and a lot of chest beating about caring for his affiliates to lure the affiliates away from then established players like myrxbiz and others. Just three months down the line I see people leaving him/EVA just like they left myrxbiz or IHC three months ago.
Affiliate
October 28th, 2003, 08:43 AM
RxRob,
I heard Theo wasn't taking on an more partners. There are already too many.
In regards to Doug, what about all you guys who are using his templates? Can you take those with you when you leave EVA or go promote for another EVA partner. Probably not.
redex
October 28th, 2003, 08:58 AM
Say what you all will, I am not kissing anyone's ass or brown nosing, but I made good money with EVA until it got way over exploited. Every little green horn lazy ass instanct success wanabee prick that came by and set their prices $10 above base to get sales ruined the whole affiliate program for Doug and EVA. Now that all the greed driven lazy bastards have jumped ship to IMS, I am back to twice as many orders and 10% declines. So I am once again making good money with EVA! To the point wher it is once again profitable to launch a PPC campaign with them. We all know for a while it was a worthless cause when you are converting 30% and getting 60% declines.
Spam the board with a good thing, spam your mailbox with a postcard invite. What's the difference, neither were in your email. LOL
Star
October 28th, 2003, 09:03 AM
I don't belive you're at 10% delinces. I am at 50% and getting worse by the day. You will pay more going direct to eva. Today is about 60% red!smileys/smiley7.gif
Neeko
October 28th, 2003, 09:08 AM
I say we all bown down to redex and kiss his ass he is never wrong, all knowing and king of the OP world, and a true DICK!
One other point, lowballers don't ruin the program for EVA, you idiot!!! They and any other OPcould care less. It ain't cutting into their profit and all it does is make more sales for them. They get a cut from each sale no matter how high or low the affiliate raises their prices I thought you knew that you green horn lazy ass instanct success wanabee prick!
-Neeko
redex
October 28th, 2003, 09:13 AM
Hey Neeko, your mom is callingyou smileys/smiley8.gif
Damn, Star, sorry to hear that. I thought the storm had passed. Stats don't lie
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phalaris
October 28th, 2003, 09:20 AM
I have moved most of my sites out of EVA except2.Last time I dared to check my stats at tss yesterday morning, I saw3 out of5 orders were in red and this trend has been the same in last 3 weeks with the exception of 5 days.
rxmary
October 28th, 2003, 09:22 AM
Out of all EVA sales today, ALL but 1 are declined/on hold. I'm sitting at over 90% declined.
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phalaris
October 28th, 2003, 09:23 AM
Redex, I think 4 red out of 22 is not exactly 10% declines.
Star
October 28th, 2003, 09:23 AM
That's still 18% redex. I had a stretch the end oflast week of 74% hold rate. You should see it - all red. It is sick
Star
October 28th, 2003, 09:27 AM
Last few weeks I have shipped 62%. When I started in tss over a year ago I was shipping 95%, when I started with eva before any of you even heard of them I was shipping 88%.
I guess the same will happen to the latest "hot program"
Neeko
October 28th, 2003, 09:28 AM
Folks, don't question the great redex he is never wrong! How dare you!!!
phalaris
October 28th, 2003, 09:30 AM
Hey neeko you joined on 03-June and you suddenly came out of woodworks today. Where you been all this time?
Buzz
October 28th, 2003, 09:31 AM
Looks like 2 of them are credit problems.
phalaris
October 28th, 2003, 09:36 AM
And the credit problems have a bad habbit of never getting resolved. I had one week with 12 orders with credit card declines. All the 12 customers got one notification by email regarding the problem and none of those orders shipped because customer support never contacted the customers by phone. Any other online merchant (OP or non-Op) would have contacted the customer by phone to resolve the issue but not EVA.
Star
October 28th, 2003, 09:37 AM
They don't care. I get about 12 a day
Neeko
October 28th, 2003, 09:38 AM
I work for KwikMed.
phalaris
October 28th, 2003, 09:39 AM
I work for KwikMed.
Sounds like work for kwikmed as an employee? or are you an affiliate?
Neeko
October 28th, 2003, 09:42 AM
I'm a super affiliate with them and have been with them since 98'. I push Viagra, Levitra, and pain meds and that's about it.
Affiliate
October 28th, 2003, 09:48 AM
Folks, don't question the great redex he is never wrong! How dare you!!!
I tell ya... there a lot of assholes on this board these days. Redex has helped many affiliates on this board.What have you contibuted besidestalking trash?
manager
October 28th, 2003, 09:58 AM
See... this is why we have to delete some posts... so people don't have to wade through this crap to get to the discussion. We'll be keeping our eye on the trouble makers to help keep the discussion flowing. Personal attacks do nothing but get old...
DEWIE42
October 28th, 2003, 09:59 AM
Thanks Admin....you handled that nicely...and I got to remove my post lolsmileys/smiley2.gif
Star
October 28th, 2003, 10:51 AM
what;s a super affiliate?
redex
October 28th, 2003, 12:34 PM
I work for KwikMed.
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RxRob
October 28th, 2003, 12:40 PM
I work for KwikMed.
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redex
October 28th, 2003, 12:43 PM
I work for KwikMed.
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I couldn't find a LMAO smiley!
manager
October 28th, 2003, 01:19 PM
This is nuts!!! I'm getting emails now to this forum from people who are trying to contact EVA.
Some lady wrote me saying there was a fraudulent charge on her credit card from EVA Global and if I don't do something about it I'm going to be prosecuted because Fleet knows who I am.
redex
October 28th, 2003, 01:45 PM
This is nuts!!! I'm getting emails now to this forum from people who are trying to contact EVA.
Some lady wrote me saying there was a fraudulent charge on her credit card from EVA Global and if I don't do something about it I'm going to be prosecuted because Fleet knows who I am.
Maybe you should close the forum to guests and require a login to read. I would hate to think that acustomer would get in here and read all this crap. http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/smileys/smiley6.gif
scottdaman
October 28th, 2003, 02:24 PM
I agree to requiring a login. That only makes sense. Lurkers can register and never post. It's not a big deal.
But then again, it wont stop customers from registering either.
DEWIE42
October 28th, 2003, 03:00 PM
I work for KwikMed.
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I couldn't find a LMAO smiley!
Dewie couldnt find a ROTFLMAO smiley facesmileys/smiley8.gifOh an Admin I think perhaps something should be done about entering this Forum..but I am sure you are on itsmileys/smiley1.gifsmileys/smiley2.gif
MedMan
October 28th, 2003, 03:34 PM
Well, maybe admin can ask for proofthatthenew member is an affiliatebefore allowingthem to join. But then again anyone can be an affiliate these days and they could just sign up as an affiliate somewhere and be a member here without any questions asked.
I would also be open to a VIP forum here for established affiliates only where we can talk about sensative issues that the public should not be reading.
WDYTAT?
Affiliate
October 28th, 2003, 04:10 PM
A private forum sounds like a good idea. Also, newbie morons should be deleted and banned after their first post. These guys are here just to talk trash and insult others. They just keep F-in upthreads. No 2nd chances.
drugsdr
October 28th, 2003, 04:14 PM
Private forum has my vote (as if it was a democrocy...ha)
Need to login before reading posts.
I have seem this place come up for some searches and agree with a
previous comment, customers should NOT be reading all this stuff.
manager
October 28th, 2003, 04:58 PM
Wewill add and Online Pharmacy Affiliate Lounge tonight where we will only allow credible posters in and it will be pw protected.
redex
October 28th, 2003, 05:32 PM
Aw f**k! I'm out smileys/smiley19.gif smileys/smiley8.gif
DEWIE42
October 28th, 2003, 06:20 PM
Aw f**k! I'm out smileys/smiley19.gif smileys/smiley8.gif
That would be great and then Redex can stick his Homestar ranking where the sun dont shine.....smileys/smiley8.gif
kaylowe
October 28th, 2003, 06:57 PM
I vote for the lounge. Hope that I qualify.
Kay
manx
October 28th, 2003, 07:26 PM
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andrew13
October 28th, 2003, 10:59 PM
I also like private forum idea - it is proffessional and very helpfull place now.smileys/smiley10.gif
crazed
October 28th, 2003, 11:33 PM
Sounds good admin... :)
Star
October 29th, 2003, 12:43 AM
how has this place helped?
Anni
October 29th, 2003, 01:28 AM
Private is the way to go, anyone can see anything right now and some of the posts are misrepresentative of the way most of us want to see our industry go...
Anni
redex
October 29th, 2003, 01:49 AM
how has this place helped?
I have something else to do besides work on sites all day (UGH!) smileys/smiley8.gif
redex
October 29th, 2003, 01:53 AM
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