MPLLC selling customer lists?

[Joe 90]

So I get an email today from these a**holes: http://www.rxdome.com askingmy test order ifit wants a refill. The only place they could have got the email address from is MPLLC. So what's going on MPLLC? Having security issuses or just making an extra buck selling lists?


I used to have a small but regular amount of reorders, but I've none since 2/9/05....something smells real fishy here.


These rxdome people are a bunch of idiots too....90 soma for $55!!


I haven't posted for a while, but this crap drew me out of my hole and needs to stop....how about addressing this issue MPLLC?

[rouletteyou]

I got the same email

[mpllc]

Hi everybody,


When will you people learn; we are not selling customer lists. Its stupid to even imply that. Im going to sell my customer list for a few bucks so I can ruin my entire business? Thats the most rediculous theory I have ever heard.


MPLLC

[mpllc]

Hi everybody,


I also wanted to let you know that we are looking into this. We will let you know when we find out whats going on.


MPLLC

[Joe 90]

Hi everybody,


I also wanted to let you know that we are looking into this. We will let you know when we find out whats going on.


MPLLC





That would be most appreciated. I didn't mean to put down MPLLC in any way, maybe my anger caused me to word my post a little inappropriately. I am MPLLC's biggest fan, or one of them at least. Anything you guys can do to quell this thieveing would be great.


Oh, and btw, can't MPLLC do something about these lowballing morons?

[scoop]

Whois:


ATTN: RXDOME.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA. 20172-0447

Domain Name: RXDOME.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
. ht9qf43c3up@networksolutionsprivateregistration.co m
ATTN: RXDOME.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
570-708-8780

Record expires on 18-Feb-2007.
Record created on 18-Feb-2005.
Database last updated on 9-Mar-2005 10:53:45 EST.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS81.WORLDNIC.COM& nbsp; 216.168.228.43
NS82.WORLDNIC.COM& nbsp; 216.168.225.222

This listing is a Network Solutions Private Registration. Mail
correspondence to this address must be sent via USPS Express Mail(TM) or
USPS Certified Mail(R); all other mail will not be processed. Be sure to
include the registrant?s domain name in the address.

Registry Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK

[scoop]

Record created on 18-Feb-2005


... and already a pain in the @$$!!

[mpllc]

Joe90,


I appreciate your anger. I am very hot over this too. Let me just say that we will find out what happened; put a speedy end to it and more importantly do everything within our legal power to crush this theif, if indeed thats what happened. We will also do everything in our power to protect the welfare of our affiliates.


MPLLC

[DaveM]

HSN T&C


7. Zero Tolerance Spam Policy:


HSNLLC requires a Zero Tolerance Spam Policy. Legal action will be taken against any Affiliate which violates this policy.


Affiliate may NOT promote by means of Spam. For the purposes of this agreement "Spam" is defined as one or more commercial or noncommercial unsolicited electronic messages. This does include targeted mailing lists if each and every name on the list has given explicit permission to send electronic messages.

If an Affiliate's account is canceled for Spam, the Affiliate's license to promote HSNLLC will be revoked indefinitely, all commissions due the Affiliate will be forfeited and HSNLLC will take legal action against the Affiliate.





Terminate this affiliate for violation of this clause alone!

[Joe 90]

Joe90,


I appreciate your anger. I am very hot over this too. Let me just say that we will find out what happened; put a speedy end to it and more importantly do everything within our legal power to crush this theif, if indeed thats what happened. We will also do everything in our power to protect the welfare of our affiliates.


MPLLC





Thanks, you guys are great! smileys/smiley20.gif

[rouletteyou]

They are newbies - affiliate number 1741 is the culprit I guess.

[RxRob]

HSN T&C


7. Zero Tolerance Spam Policy:


HSNLLC requires a Zero Tolerance Spam Policy. Legal action will be taken against any Affiliate which violates this policy.


Affiliate may NOT promote by means of Spam. For the purposes of this agreement "Spam" is defined as one or more commercial or noncommercial unsolicited electronic messages. This does include targeted mailing lists if each and every name on the list has given explicit permission to send electronic messages.

If an Affiliate's account is canceled for Spam, the Affiliate's license to promote HSNLLC will be revoked indefinitely, all commissions due the Affiliate will be forfeited and HSNLLC will take legal action against the Affiliate.





Terminate this affiliate for violation of this clause alone!









I agree.

[learning]

They are newbies - affiliate number 1741 is the culprit I guess.


1741 is the store number

[rouletteyou]

That is what I meant - HSN can track the store number to the affiliate id

[mpllc]

Hi everybody,


In reference to the above posts, I would like to say that theissue has been resolved. I can not give specifics due to potential legal action we are pursuing; however I would like to say that with the help of our affiliates we were able to isolate and prevent the spamming of our customers. In the near future we will be announcing a marketing campaign, sponsered by us, aimed at enticing customers to do business with you; the affiliate. This program was created by us in conjunction with some of our affiliates. We believe this will be extremely helpful to all involved. I would like to say that this speedy and effective end to the issue could have only happened in a program like ours where affiliate and OP are working together in an environment of trust and respect. I thank all who helped and again, as always, if we can be of any further assistance please dont hesitate to call or e-mail.


MPLLC

[DaveM]

Public hangings would be good! Very entertaining and leave a clear message to others.

[Joe 90]

Hi everybody,


In reference to the above posts, I would like to say that theissue has been resolved. I can not give specifics due to potential legal action we are pursuing; however I would like to say that with the help of our affiliates we were able to isolate and prevent the spamming of our customers. In the near future we will be announcing a marketing campaign, sponsered by us, aimed at enticing customers to do business with you; the affiliate. This program was created by us in conjunction with some of our affiliates. We believe this will be extremely helpful to all involved. I would like to say that this speedy and effective end to the issue could have only happened in a program like ours where affiliate and OP are working together in an environment of trust and respect. I thank all who helped and again, as always, if we can be of any further assistance please dont hesitate to call or e-mail.


MPLLC





Appreciated the phone call Howard, and well done on taking care of this matter so promptly. Kudos to MPLLC.


p.s. I hope the affiliate at the heart of the problem has his balls ripped off by monkeys, or any pets he might have. smileys/smiley8.gif

[RxRob]

The account in question is still active, isn't it?

[david1]

yes you noticed that too! but why would they take action against themselves?

it amazes me the blind faith here, i think joe90 got it right in his first post.smileys/smiley11.gif

[MedsDirect]

Guys, pm or call Howard if you really need more details, we cant share it openly. If you have a concern, please, feel free to contact him. We have gone through hell and high water this past week to protect you, our affiliates, and your business. I wish I could lay out the details, but it would counteract what we have done so far.

[DaveM]

Well, I don't know what you think you accomplished but these spamming cocksuckers at RxDome are still at it. Just forwarded a copy to Howard, NetworkSolutions and EV1.


smileys/smiley7.gif

[ArexCare]

When first upset about my amount of spam, I explored some spam-cop-type tech boards. I remember reading a post (2 yrs. ago?), about a way of 'replying-to' with a code or utility that would bombard the spammer with countless thousands of replies, even if the IP and e-mail address were on a rotator, changing every few seconds. Could check into it again, and thought it might be an idea to offer. Anyone else remember the way to do it?smileys/smiley25.gif

[Joe 90]

Well, I don't know what you think you accomplished but these spamming cocksuckers at RxDome are still at it. Just forwarded a copy to Howard, NetworkSolutions and EV1.


smileys/smiley7.gif





I like your turn of phrase, DaveM. I just got another one from these assholes too. Spamming bastards.

[drugsdr]

I have not had the RxDome spam but I have received spam emails for multiple test orders promoting these domains;



pillfriend.com

pillstrust.com

mastermeds.com



All these sites are being processed through PA I think not MPLLC.



The spam is now coming on a daily basis. Thanks the MPLLC's great
security we can probably all kiss goodbye our re-orders. When the
RxMedical list got sold to half a dozen spammers it totally killed all
the re-order buiness with them.



What pisses me off is the because of MPLLC policy of not providing
customers first names to affiliates now these spammers have more
information about my past customers than I do.



All I can do is send a "Dear Customer" email trying to get them back,
but the spammers are using the customers full names. This makes
it look to customers that I'm the spammer and the real spammer is
legit. Totally F#$ked if you ask me.

[david1]

Yes one of my test mpllc orders is getting 5 spams a day for
the last week, I already switched all my links, no reason to give the spammers all *my* new customers as well.....

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1. The order form for this website should not still be functioning. For all of us who bust our ass this is a slap in the face. Plus it is a discredit to MPLLC.


2. All orders received from these low life cocksuckers should be credited to the original referring affiliate.





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[learning]

Seems there is a fraudulent agreement betwen this aff, and someone else.


I understand that before remove the orders forms, MPLLC is in the proccess to


check the evolution of this proccess and the enough proof to take promt action.


Is the only explanation I can find.

[DaveM]

2. All orders received from these low life cocksuckers should be credited to the original referring affiliate.


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That's always the rule when dealing with situations like this! Just can't get anybody to do it.


Welcome back iCollect.

[Joe 90]

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1. The order form for this website should not still be functioning. For all of us who bust our ass this is a slap in the face. Plus it is a discredit to MPLLC.


2. All orders received from these low life cocksuckers should be credited to the original referring affiliate.


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icollect, wtf, where have you been dear fellow?...and, btw, my sentiments exactly. Nice to have you back too.

[icollect]

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Thanks Guys, it's good to be here. I hate Spammerssmileys/smiley7.gif. I think these guys have done a lot of damage, not only to us, but to MPLLC. This is the kind of bottom feeding that hurts ecommerce in general. The entire world is busting the chops of TeleMedicine and some pecker woods crawl from under a rock and pull this crap. Get a rope guys, it's time for a lynching.smileys/smiley8.gif

[david1]

by now this list will have been sold atleast 5-6 times.... and will be
in the hands of different spammers, there is no way to stop this
once it starts, anyway, simply shutting down the rxdome store will only
mean they move their business to one of a half dozen other places.

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David, not shutting down the asshole, means you are condoning what he is doing. If you force him to update his links and move to another pharmacy, then those who he has spammed may not be so eager to do business with a new pharmacy. Every consumer knows that spammers are dog sh*t, and introducing confusion into the mix only helps further that knowledge.


Not only should these sh*t heads not be able to prosper from this theft, they should be tracked down and prosecuted for criminal HIPPA violations. They have transmitted stolen patient data over non secure networks, for the sole purpose of robbing other affiliates.


Finally, MPLLC has shown itself to be a quality program. These thieves have besmirched them with this theft and indeed us all. We need to watch for these cocksuckers and squash them like the bugs they are every time they stick their slimy heads from under the rocks they live.

[Joe 90]

goddamn right icollect, these bastards have stolen a tidy bit of business from me. I'd love them to get mugged in the street or carjacked, see what it feels like to be stolen from. smileys/smiley8.gif

[david1]

icollected, you are missing my point... I am saying by now this list
has changed hands many times, you can bet this list will be dialed and
mailed like crazy, not all the orders, but I bet anyone who bought
tramadol from MPLLC in the last year is getting atleast 1 call a
week and 2-3 emails a day...... this is what drugsdr meant when he said
reorders will go to zero, he is right, now is the time to switch your
links and fast, MPLLC is not saying anything about this which is
very strange, I wish they would come clean here

[drugsdr]

To give an idea of the re-order losses from this.



From my current order track page, 1/20 orders are a re-order



Two Random Pages from Feb



Page 1 7/20 orders where re-orders,

Page 2 10/20 orders where re-orders.



Two Random Pages from Jan



Page 1 11/20 orders where re-orders,

Page 2 8/20 orders where re-orders.



Two Random Pages from Dec



Page 1 14/20 orders where re-orders,

Page 2 7/20 orders where re-orders.



Time will tell if the current lack of re-orders is related to the stolen customer list or just a statistical anomoly.

[chat]

Hi everybody,


In reference to the above posts, I would like to say that theissue has been resolved. I can not give specifics due to potential legal action we are pursuing; however I would like to say that with the help of our affiliates we were able to isolate and prevent the spamming of our customers. MPLLC





So this GDMF'er was warned to stop the spamming, and in the meanwhile he is still taking orders. F**K it. If that's the only consequence I'd like to know whereyou can buy the customer list.

[RxRob]

To give an idea of the re-order losses from this.

From my current order track page, 1/20 orders are a re-order

Two Random Pages from Feb

Page 1 7/20 orders where re-orders,
Page 2 10/20 orders where re-orders.

Two Random Pages from Jan

Page 1 11/20 orders where re-orders,
Page 2 8/20 orders where re-orders.

Two Random Pages from Dec

Page 1 14/20 orders where re-orders,
Page 2 7/20 orders where re-orders.

Time will tell if the current lack of re-orders is related to the stolen customer list or just a statistical anomoly.




I personally don't think a "stolen" customer list would affect your/my reorder percentage that much. SPAM filters wipe a lot of the SPAM out and most of what does make it through is probably ignored and deleted. How many SPAM emails do you read?


Anyway, with all of this talk about a "stolen list", if tempatation got the better of HSN's owners, they'd havethe perfect smoke screen to cover up some shady activity. smileys/smiley5.gif





I've sent a lot of sales to HSN with lower conversion rates and lower commissions than I would get with other programs simply because their reorder rate wassecond to none.

[david1]

RxRob: There is a big difference between a SPAM
arriving that says Dear Friend, look here at my cheap Tramadol. and one
that says:



Dear Bob Smith



You ordered 90 count Tramadol from us on 2/20/05 from our old web site old_affiliate.com



You are now due for a refill. This month we have Tramadol at $X

Please take note of our new web site address xyz.com



xyz.com



The point being the emails will look like they come from the 'pharmacy'

the customer was ordering from before (and will convert well). The
MPLLC affiliate who had his customer hijacked on the other hand can
only send out a lame Dear friend email in response.





Your other point about shady practices I also made early when I said
joe 90 was right on, it is possible they are exiting the affiliate biz,
either that or they have been hacked or a staff member sold the list
(of course



all 3 possibilities mean new customers will be lost as well).





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[Vulture]

this really stinks .... i've never done a test order for myself but
maybe i really should. i'm disappointed with mpllc and i actively
promote them over PA for some products. time to switch?

[icollect]

RxRob: There is a big difference between a SPAM arriving that says Dear Friend, look here at my cheap Tramadol. and one that says:

Dear Bob Smith

You ordered 90 count Tramadol from us on 2/20/05 from our old web site old_affiliate.com

You are now due for a refill. This month we have Tramadol at $X
Please take note of our new web site address xyz.com

xyz.com

The point being the emails will look like they come from the 'pharmacy'
the customer was ordering from before (and will convert well). The MPLLC affiliate who had his customer hijacked on the other hand can only send out a lame Dear friend email in response.


Your other point about shady practices I also made early when I said joe 90 was right on, it is possible they are exiting the affiliate biz, either that or they have been hacked or a staff member sold the list (of course

all 3 possibilities mean new customers will be lost as well).



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Guys the one thing I am sure of is Howard and the gang would never do anything like this. In numerous conversations with Howard and Ralph, it has been said to the point of exhaustion, that their customer is the affiliate.


This kind of sh*t should never happen and I'm sure the guys at MPLLC are making sure of that. I'm leaving my links right where they are. I know beyond doubt that however it shakes out, it will be to the affiliates advantage.


Let's not beat up these guys who have been the only OP to operate in an honorable fashion. Howard tried to call my yesterday. How many of the old programs did that. If you complained or were a problem, they just booted your ass and stoled your refills. Judge a tree by the fruit it bears.

[skeeter]

Icollect shut up! If MPLLC wasn't shady and clean as you say RXDOME.com WOULD NOT STILL BE PROCESSING ORDERS FOR MPLLC.


Howard why is this guy still your affiliate??????!!!!!!!!!!

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What a mouth on you worm. Slime away Skeeter. We'll see you next time little boy.

[blabla]

Guys the one thing I am sure of is Howard and the gang would never do
anything like this. In numerous conversations with Howard and Ralph,
it has been said to the point of exhaustion, that their customer is the
affiliate.



hmm .. i suspect that it's not howard or AAron, but looks like
it's somebody from their staff (if the email which u got is true).



btw, my sales for this last 10 days are the lowest

[mpllc]

Skeeter,


Your a Moron. How could anyone believe that this is some design by me or my company to steal orders. I understand your pissed, I am too. To make these ridiculous unwarranted assertions only shows how silly you are. Be a big boy and realize what happened and realize that this isnt some wierd plan by us or our program to defraud our affiliates. That makes absolutely no business sense.Also realize that the vast majority of the e-mail has ceased although some is still happening and we are working to stop it. We will never get it 100%. I have heard from many of you that your orders are rebounding and getting back to normal. Some have asked for help in soliciting their data base, this we have done with success. If your content to sit back and make stupid accusations, then kiss your business goodbye. If you want to get in there and fight, then we are with you.


MPLLC

[icollect]

Guys the one thing I am sure of is Howard and the gang would never do anything like this. In numerous conversations with Howard and Ralph, it has been said to the point of exhaustion, that their customer is the affiliate.

hmm .. i suspect that it's not howard or AAron, but looks like it's somebody from their staff (if the email which u got is true).

btw, my sales for this last 10 days are the lowest

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Since the problem first occurred this board has been littered with post about affiliates talking to Howard. You can't even get other Ops to return your emails. I don't know if you guys remember the good old days when updating links was not an optional thing. Op programs were coming and going on a weekly basis. Late payments or no payments, and even now bounced checks.


With very little effort on my part and a huge effort on Howard and staffs part, my sales are back up to par. Instead of trying to self destruct, I called MPLLC up and communicated with them in a business like manner. These guys have earned respect. Every other Monday, my pay shows up. They are constantly making sure they are in compliance with federal and state law, at great expense, so I can keep getting that biweekly renumeration.


In summary guys, I'm not going backwards. I'm not going out shopping for an OP program that is as dependable as MPLLC, because it does not exist. I am not happy about what happened, but I know MPLLC did not have sh*t to do with it PERIOD. My links and my loyalty stay right where they are.

[david1]

icollect who do you work for? how much they pay you to post here?
nobody is pointing fingers at anybody I said there are 3
possibilities, all makes perfect business sense to me here is one
scenario among many:



1. build a "trusted" affiliate program, that works "hard" to keep the program

compliant smileys/smiley2.gif

2. collect emails using the affiliates until you have half of what is out there

(this biz is not so big as many people think, there are probably only 100K customers out there in total)

3. "loose" the list to hackers, and make statements that the lawyers are handling it

4. pretend the situation is closed (ie: pause your emailer) and tell
affiliates the emails will never be "100%" stopped allowing you to
resume the mailer a week later....



anyway no matter what the truth is, it stinks because if this is really
spammers the list has changed hands 10 times already no amount of talk
about "lawyers" will solve this.

[blabla]

hmm ...



i don't know .. why .. but i believe this guys (i mean Howard and
Aaron). and "My links and my loyalty stay right where they are" too ...



there are 2 thinks that i cann't explain.



1,. from where rxdome have this list?

2. and why their order links still working? (as i know MPLLc have some rules about smapping :-))

[overdose]

no stirring... but it just makes me feel much better seeing thateven icollect is hurtfrom loosingregular reorders smileys/smiley8.gif

[icollect]

no stirring... but it just makes me feel much better seeing thateven icollect is hurtfrom loosingregular reorders smileys/smiley8.gif



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Damn Guys, I guess the honeymoon is oversmileys/smiley8.gif

[Gavin]

Skeeter has a point. It would be nice to get a straight answer as to why the links still work on the site???






Skeeter,


Your a God. How could anyone believe that this is some design by me or my company to steal orders. I understand your pissed, I am too. To make these ridiculous unwarranted assertions only shows how silly you are. Be a big boy and realize what happened and realize that this isnt some wierd plan by us or our program to defraud our affiliates. That makes absolutely no business sense.Also realize that the vast majority of the e-mail has ceased although some is still happening and we are working to stop it. We will never get it 100%. I have heard from many of you that your orders are rebounding and getting back to normal. Some have asked for help in soliciting their data base, this we have done with success. If your content to sit back and make stupid accusations, then kiss your business goodbye. If you want to get in there and fight, then we are with you.


MPLLC

[King_Phen]

&gt;&gt;&gt;straight answer as to why the links still work on the site???



Yeah, I think all of us would like to know that.

[blabla]

Hello



sorry, i don't going to reopen this topic (btw this question is still open:





&gt;&gt;&gt;straight answer as to why the links still work on the site???





Yeah, I think all of us would like to know that.



the only think is .. that i remember about 1 email from my customer
which i got 10 march and forward to customersupport@***, but without
any answer



the email is:



Hi I was contacted today by

someone trying to sell me

medications. It
occured to me that this might be your company trying to confirm my order. I
get so many telephone solicitations that

I automaticly refuse them.

If
this was you trying to get

in contact with me re this

order please do so
again, and

I will respond. If it was not

then I apologise for
this

note..



Thanks

J B



------------------

[blabla]

2 Joe



if u aren't interested in PR Increasing of this guys(rxdome) pls edit ur first post :-)

[DaveM]

Still more emails sent to our customers!


O.K., since it doesn't seem to matter I'll buy a copy of this list. Just PM me. Mind as well make money from it too.

[RxRob]

Are the orderlinks still working?


I keep trying to come up with a reasonable explaination as to why mpllc/hsn would refuse to delete rxdome's account, but I can't. Can someone help me understand?

[seodoc]

I'll buy a copy of this list. Just PM me.





From what I hear you couldn't afford it playa. smileys/smiley16.gif

[DaveM]

You shouldupgrade to better informed friends clown!

[seodoc]

You shouldupgrade to better informed friends clown!



Please inform me.

[ChesterCoperpot]

Are the orderlinks still working?


I keep trying to come up with a reasonable explaination as to why mpllc/hsn would refuse to delete rxdome's account, but I can't. Can someone help me understand?








Inside job? smileys/smiley3.gif

[boog]

I got the RxDome email today as well. I've never ordered from MPLLC or anywhere else.


The fact that the RxDome affiliate account is still active sends the message that MPLLC is spam-friendly.That in itself is not very surprising considering the competition, but why the glaring contradiction between MPLLC policies and actions (or absence of)?


The obvious thing to do in this situation was cancel the affiliate account but they chose to piss everyone off. Hope it's worth it.

[King_Phen]

Hey Howard, whats up with this account still being active?

[david1]

I dont understand what the big deal is about shutting down rxdome.com

if mpllc shut then down mpllc can open a new store with 2 clicks......

besides people here reported that not only is the full list being
mailed using mpllc stores; but also stores with other programs..... how
long before the "you want a refill" phone calls start? there are
still loyal 'my links stay where they are' type guys here, with all
this going on that amazes me the most, people never seem to understand
this biz no matter how many times their hand is put in the fire

[overdose]

Hi everybody,


In reference to the above posts, I would like to say that theissue has been resolved. I can not give specifics due to potential legal action we are pursuing; however I would like to say that with the help of our affiliates we were able to isolate and prevent the spamming of our customers....&lt;&gt;... I would like to say that this speedy and effective end to the issue could have only happened in a program like ours where affiliate and OP are working together in an environment of trust and respect. I thank all who helped and again, as always, if we can be of any further assistance please dont hesitate to call or e-mail.


MPLLC



Guys, pm or call Howard if you really need more details, we cant share it openly. If you have a concern, please, feel free to contact him. We have gone through hell and high water this past week to protect you, our affiliates, and your business. I wish I could lay out the details, but it would counteract what we have done so far.


smileys/smiley8.gif

[blabla]

I dont understand what the big deal is about shutting down rxdome.com





I suspect , that 95 % of guys here (and i'm too) "WANT TO BELIEVE" that's
it's not MPLLC hand work. and as confirmation of this, need to see
rxdome acc suspended.

after this ... 50% of this guys, will be think ... that nothing
happend, forget about this after 2 months and will be thinking
that it's only rxdome :=-)





i can't understand, why MPLLC don't do it ???



2 JOE

is rxdome ur site? otherwise why u don't reedit in your first post link to this site/?



btw ... don't think that democracy work.

forget about this and u be happy :-)

[RxRob]

The spam I received had this in the header:

"Received: from localhost.localdomain (rs-64-246-63-186.ev1.net [64.246.63.186] (may be forged))"


So I telnet'ed to 64.246.63.186 port 25


The mailserver identified itself with "220 mail2.mastermeds.com ESMTP Postfix"


Maybe scoop can take it from here. http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/smileys/smiley17.gif

[Joe 90]

I dont understand what the big deal is about shutting down rxdome.com


I suspect , that 95 % of guys here (and i'm too) "WANT TO BELIEVE" that's it's not MPLLC hand work. and as confirmation of this, need to see rxdome acc suspended.
after this ... 50% of this guys, will be think ... that nothing happend, forget about this after 2 months and will be thinking that it's only rxdome :=-)Huh???????


i can't understand, why MPLLC don't do it ???

2 JOE
is rxdome ur site? (This is the dumbest question I've ever been asked.) otherwise why u don't reedit in your first post link to this site/?

btw ... don't think that democracy work.
forget about this and u be happy :-)



Listen, why don't you quit worrying about my posts and spend a little more time putting together coherent sentences? And how about using spell check once in a while too, blabla?

[skeeter]

WHY IS RXDOME STILL TAKING ORDERS?

[skeeter]

still waiting....

[Vulture]

interesting indeed ... mpllc has been conspicuously 'missing in action'
these past few days. the matter in this thread .. the matter of no more
email notifications (maybe their mail server really is busy
spammingsmileys/smiley11.gif ) of orders. i just hope those wires are sent for monday as usual.

[drugsdr]

Got an email from somebody called Sean Reilly who I believe is Howards business partner.



Evidently howard is out of the office until Monday 28th March.



So I would not be expecting any answers from him on the forum any time soon.

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Yep Sean is part of the MPLLC team.

[Vulture]

i take it all back .. my only confirmation is 1+1=2 .. let the smoke &amp; mirrors continue

[rouletteyou]

Hey guys - why would these guys sell the list - it would be stupid. As for rxdome just attack it. You cant tell me none of you are capable of it

[Vulture]

trust me it's smoke &amp; mirrors, that's all it is!

[david1]

what other programs are out there that are still any
good and not filled with crooks and cheats? I want to switch all my
links now asap after reading these posts.... the fact that my mpllc
test order is (still) getting 3-4 spams a day does not help
either....

</span>

[seodoc]

trust me, they did sell it. as stupid and pre-schoolish as it sounds,
they did sell it, not realizing that affiliates would catch on so
quickly.




I don't believe that for a second.

[drugsdr]

David1,



If you can wait till probably monday I'll be able to help with a
program. Same products as mpllc, USA based Dr's and pharms,
better base prices, weekly wires.



pm me if interested smileys/smiley2.gif



Drugsdr

[blabla]

i don't believ that too :-(



can "this" be mpllc competitor's hand work?

[david1]

vulture do you have anything to back that statement up?, if you know they sold it I would sure like to know where to buy it



</span>

[drugsdr]

I don't believe they sold the list, but I think mpllc is acting improperly leaving the rxdome account open.



The only thing I could come up with to accept they are doing the right
thing is that they will take all the rxdome orders and then credit the
sales back to the last affiliate who sold something to the
customer. But howard or nobody else in the office has said
anything like that to me officially or unofficially so it's a complete
guess.

[MedsDirect]

Vulture,


To claim that you know we sold a list is absolute ignorance, and personally, I'm insulted that it is even in question. Come forward with some sort of evidence, or lead, or proof. Hell, then we may even be able to find out exactly what IS going on.


Theorizing on the forums helps no one.


Email us, forward your suggestions, questions etc. Or call us. Do something constructive. Many of you affiliates know enough about the internet, spam campaigns, and OP's to really help us, and yourselves.


------


I can assure you that we would never steal from, betray, exploit or lie to our affiliates. We are businessmen, but we are also human and I need to be able to look my daughters in the eyes and be able to sleep at night.

[Joe 90]

What about the RxDome backend still working, why is that? And how about making good to the affiliates that had their reorders stolen by these creeps as drugsdr suggests in his last post?

[chat]

Theorizing on the forums helps no one.





I agree, very bad for the industry. Unless you are able to share absolute proof of such a serious allegation, what you are saying might be construed by MPLLC as libelous.

[killroy]

But it will also force the truth to the surface, thus why we have free speech.

[Gavin]

Theorizing on the forums helps no one.





I agree, very bad for the industry. Unless you are able to share absolute proof of such a serious allegation, what you are saying might be construed by MPLLC as libelous.





It would be so simple for them to just answer the question: WHY IS RXDOME STILL ACTIVE? They look guilty because they are not giving us a straight answer. Or for that matter any answer.

[chat]

But it will also force the truth to the surface, thus why we have free speech.


Yes I hope the truth does come out. My point was that I believe many of us may sometimesbe anxious to speculate about what is going on. If there is any real evidence of this, then why not lay it out there. If not, then one should be careful when makingunsubstantiated allegations. How many of us who read such things are tempted to swap links? I won't believe it until I see the evidence.


However I agree that a response ofattacking the messenger rather than the issuedoes looksuspicious.

[david1]

has anyone heard any more about this issue

[Joe 90]

Still waiting to hear from MPLLC as to why rxdome's backend still works, and to the issue of restitution to wronged affiliates.

[seodoc]

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now that</span> would be something to see

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Guys, I expect that the decision on whatever happens is in Howards court. He is on vacation until Monday. I know everybody is pissed, but these guys have always been straight up. Let's let the affiliate manager get back in town before we draw and quarter them.


I remember HMU, even when it was obvious that they had f**ked everyone out of their refills, almost everyone gave them the benefit of the doubt. These guys have never f**ked you out of a dime, and your calling for their head.


Let's try not to alienate the staff of MPLLC from the affiliates, before this thing has time to play itself out. I would hate to find out the majority was wrong in this case, but business relationships had been shattered, because of harsh words said in the heat of anger.


Finally, I hate f**king Spammers. There is no excuse for the intrusion and theft of everyones bandwidth. Even is someone is completely ignorant of SEO, they can do PPC. Spamming is illegal PERIOD, it is immoral, and in this case it is theft. I am not a spokesman for MPLLC, but they have always dealt honestly with me. I have no reason to believe that will change.


BTW, HAPPY Easter Guys.

[Vulture]

something constructive would be you disabling those guys who're ripping
us off. anyway, i'm gone back to doing something even more constructive
.. re-routing links and traffic

[rouletteyou]

Man, Howard leaves for a week and the whole rx world goes to shiite - not the muslim, the diaper stuff. Look, I am hurting right now as much as the next guy but I sincerly believe MPLLC is the absolute best out there. I know which wire is my largest every two weeks and they are it. RXDOME will be dealt with. At least 10% of the affiliates for MPLLC are in this forum making 50% of the money - it will be fixed and we will be taken care of. His business will be ruined if it does'nt - he is smarter than that.

[webwiz]

Face it boys and girls,


You are all being screwed by these rotten eggs (MPLLC). They have had plenty of time to answer the question about RX Dome.


Remember, silence is often more telling than voice or words.


Peter.

[icollect]

Face it boys and girls,


You are all being screwed by these rotten eggs (MPLLC). They have had plenty of time to answer the question about RX Dome.


Remember, silence is often more telling than voice or words.


Peter.



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Peter, This is business and sometimes silence is the best policy. There's a lot of these boys and girls that depend on MPLLC for their daily bread. Getting them to burn their bridges is a bad idea. There's tons of programs that screw affiliates with no apology. It takes months sometimes to find an affiliate program that even counts sales, much less re-orders. Talking these folks into changing programs because somebody believes they finally got something on MPLLC doesn't make a lick of sense.


Two or three days isn't going to make or break anybody at this point. Throwing away a so far good relationship with a reliable program could be catastrophic. Even if your going to change links, it's probably not a good idea to burn your bridges, you may just want to come back someday.

[ArexCare]

smileys/smiley14.gifAgreed with icollect and rouletteyou. Also think that PM'ng or e-mailing any methods for dealing with the spammers is in order. Have a couple of tech friends I'll be talking with as well as hitting a few 'boards' this weekend.

[david1]

what is the big deal over this rxdome thing, if it is NOT mpllc the rxdome

guy can send his traffic to atleast 3 other U.S programs who will welcome

him with open arms......

if it is mpllc they can open a new store in one click:

why not leave mpllc alone, after all their hard work if rxdome is their site

they should be entitled to make an extra buck most of these customers are buying from 5 or 6 guys anyway

[Joe 90]

what is the big deal over this rxdome thing, if it is NOT mpllc the rxdome
guy can send his traffic to atleast 3 other U.S programs who will welcome
him with open arms......
if it is mpllc they can open a new store in one click:
why not leave mpllc alone, after all their hard work if rxdome is their site
they should be entitled to make an extra buck most of these customers are buying from 5 or 6 guys anyway




david1, if you don't have anything intelligent or intelligible to say, please don't post it. smileys/smiley2.gif

[david1]

Joe you are a funny man; not only was my post intelligent, and
intelligible it was also prophetic, take a look at the other posts in
this forum, another major MPLLC spam web site has already appeared, my
mpllc test order got it's first shinny new spam from this web site
today, this biz is all about the now, not the yesterday, not the
tomorrow; the folks at mpllc understand this, all the other programs
understand this; the folks at rxdome understand this, many folks in
this forum do NOT understand this and continue to whine about rxdome
when actually there is already a second site, and no doubt there are
many others already hooked up to other affiliate programs ready to go
live if the first two are shut (that assumes the spammer is
not MPLLC themselves, in that case the sites will never be shut).
The real question is who is behind it, not if some 9$ domain (or two
domains as the case is now) have working links with MPLLC......

[mpllc]

Hi everybody,


Just got back and wanted to comment. In addition to my comments(posted as a new topic) I would like to thank some of you in this string and tell you that we appreciate your business and the trust you placed in us and we would never do anything to ruin that. In fact, I believe the outcome of this situation will be our finest moment as a company and individuals. Iam very happy and thankful that many of you do trust us and honor us with your business.You will be very gald you have chosen us to handle your business needs.


MPLLC

[mpllc]

Hi everybody,


I also wanted to comment about these ridiculous unwarranted comments by guys like webwiz. I urge everybody who believes we are here to steal your business and harm your livelyhood to go to another OP. We work hard and are working hard to make our affiliates money.A relationship built on a total lack of trust and honesty is not a good one. I would rather deal with 50 icollects and rouletteyou's and Joe90's than have a thousand webwiz's and skeeters. I have no interest in working with folks that view us with mistrust and skepticism.


MPLLC

[david1]

trouble is with 50 icollects, rouletteyou and joe90's judging by their posts would you make money?



one of them atleast still lives with his mother.... smileys/smiley11.gif

[rouletteyou]

You know what David I made more money last year than you could have hopped to have made. I paid more taxes last year in the first quarter than some grossed the whole year. My wife drives a car that we own that may be worth more than your house. (not that material posession means I am better than anyone - just you!)
Up until now I have always said things on this forum that were halfway intelligent. This wont happen again.

David1 how about you stay away from me and mine and I wont ruin you??

[jaguar]

rouletteyou --


I say this with respect.


Your avatar, the german shepard, fits your personality. A docile, serious, loyal animal until you f**k with one. I enjoy your posts.

[Joe 90]

David1 how about you stay away from me and mine and I wont ruin you??


Ditto. Very succinctly put rouletteyou.

[icollect]

David obviously has issues, may be a penis thing. David I don't need to see your bank statement to know you don't make any real money. You lack all the skills that the top tier of affiliates possess. Such as the ability to communicate.Being wrong every time you make an assumption.


Give you a for instance. The San Francisco Thing. David I'm anEx Marine. I have to struggle every day to avoid stomping the sh*t out of obnoxious assholes like you, but I do it, because I'm determined to be successful. These folks at MPLLC are my friends. I am loyal, because to me there is nothing more important. You learn that lying in the mud on your face, when people are throwing more than harsh language at you.


David if you want to influence the RX affiliate market, use you efforts to propose constructive ideas. The market will work it's way thru the current problems. The question you have to ask yourself is, do you want to be a part of it when it does.JMHO.


Semper Fi



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[skeeter]

HOWARD It has been 3 weeks since RxDome has spammed and they are still
active. YOU AND YOUR COMPANY have not responded to this nor have pulled
their SPAMMING site. You leave you affiliates out to dry for 3 WEEKS! 3 weeks is more than enough time! 3 weeks is ages in
the rx industry, yet you keep your affiliates waiting for a response
while you LET rxdome, pillcobra, whomever else steal their
refills. The only thing you defend on here is people calling you names
but you have done nothing to defend your business!
except say "we will explain in do time" that's not good enough. People could
care less what you say now, your affiliates are switching links.



3 WEEKS!!!!!!! AND YOU EXPECT YOU'RE AFFILIATES TO BELIEVE YOUR CRAP!



You guys are just like Mark McGwire! Plead the fifth huh? Look what it
did to his credibility:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2020890



Trust me it has done worse to yours!!!!!!!

[jaguar]

Skeeter.


I hope you don't kiss your mother with that mouth or touch her with the fingers that type such filth. Geesh!

[manager]

Skeeter, we believe everyone has a right to state their opinions here
but lets do without the name calling, ok? If you keep it up we will
just delete your posts because there is no reason to become hostile.smileys/smiley7.gif Plus, ediitng them just wastes our time!smileys/smiley11.gif

[mpllc]

Sketter,


Our credability is fine. Those affiliates that have PM'd or called I have explained things to and as you see your crap is losing steam here. You, I have no intention of explaining myself to. I have spoken to about 20 affiliates by phone today. By the way, they all think your an idiot. The only ones whose credability is ruined is yours. If anyone has any interest in speaking with me about this feel free to PM me and I would happily give you my phone number and discuss things with you. Skeeter; dont bother. By the way, go downstairs I think your mothers calling you for lunch.


MPLLC

[DaveM]

I have to struggle every day to avoid stomping the sh*t out of obnoxious assholes ...


Amen brother!

[juancarlos]

"I believe the outcome of this situation will be our finest moment as a company and individuals"

OK here is the bottom line. I send more business to you then probably any of the "I make more money then Costa Rica" (richest country in Latin America), "my wife drives a car more expansive then your house" stud affiliates that seem to have so much time to post all day.

I have a simple question. Why should I stay with you at this point? I have lost a ton of money in the past three weeks while you have been sitting there making one BS statement after the other.

March 9th
"We will also do everything in our power to protect the welfare of our affiliates"

March 11th (Resolved? come again...)
"In reference to the above posts, I would like to say that the issue has been RESOLVED. I can not give specifics due to potential legal action we are pursuing; however I would like to say that with the help of our affiliates we were able to isolate and prevent the spamming of our customers."

March 12th.
"Have gone through hell and high water this past week to protect you, our affiliates, and your business. I wish I could lay out the details, but it would counteract what we have done so far."
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[Chunk]

7. Zero Tolerance Spam Policy:


HSNLLC requires a Zero Tolerance Spam Policy. Legal action will be taken against any Affiliate which violates this policy.


Affiliate may NOT promote by means of Spam. For the purposes of this agreement "Spam" is defined as one or more commercial or noncommercial unsolicited electronic messages. This does include targeted mailing lists if each and every name on the list has given explicit permission to send electronic messages.

If an Affiliate's account is canceled for Spam, the Affiliate's license to promote HSNLLC will be revoked indefinitely, all commissions due the Affiliate will be forfeited and HSNLLC will take legal action against the Affiliate.





Didnt you know? smileys/smiley8.gif

[mpllc]

Juancarlos,


We obviously thank you for whatever business you are giving us, however we have never spoken nor do I recognize anything about you that would put you as one of our top affiliates. I also notice your a newbi as some of those yelling the loudest are. I wonder if you and they are actual affiliates or just competitors trying to make things sound a lot worse than they are. I have a hard time buying that your anyone of our largest 10 affiliates as I know and have spoken to all of you often.Our top 10all are also active on the forum and wouldnt brag about the car their wife drives or how much money they have. I did however give you my number, as I would anyone who asked for it. Feel free to call.


MPLLC

[mpllc]

I would also say to all involved that the problem isnt nearly as widespread as some of you would like others to believe. To say you lost a ton of money is impossible based on the scope of the problem. Either way, many of our affiliates have spoken to me personally and are staisfied with our approach to sloving the problem. If you would like to speak to me personally, feel free to PM me. I would be happy to give you my phone number or give me your affiliate ID # and I will call you. Either way I would be happy to discuss.


MPLLC

[juancarlos]

Howard,


The fact I don't have 25k posts on this forum doesn't mean anything. Actually, it means I have a life and something better to do then sit here all day staring attheseposts. Frankly, I could care less about what your opinions are at this point. You just don't get it. At this point, your competitors couldn't make you look worse if they tried.Its individuals like me (you are now screwing) who helped you pay for your fancy car.About your private message; you are little too late,I've already made my changes. Your order numbers will reflectthis "Newbie"leaving your program before long. I'm glad to see you are talking to all the "Big" Affiliates and they are "on board" with whatever magic plan you have. And this BS excuse about being "hacked". Having your own team "Hack" your own database and pump it with e-mails doesn't count as being "Hacked". Here is the bottom line. You mention the "Major affiliates" only lost some 64 orders in total. What about the other affiliates (you know the ones with only 5 orders here and there) I suppose you don't give a Sh*t about them... I have 4 major sites. 3 of my sites WERE with you and the other 1 with RXP. My RXP site gets it's re-orders like clockwork. On the other hand, the three sites I had with you in the past month have literally dropped to "0" reorders. How in the world is it possible only 64 orders were lost when there are 10 guys on here alone complaining? I alone lost many times that amount.


Now I am your competition, may the best man win!!!


iCollect, you don't have to follow this post with. "Hi my name is iCollect, I love MPLLC, I once had lunch with Howard and Mother Theresa" Honestly, that Sh*t is played out already.


J (not Juan)

[boog]

I might be one of the top 10 affs at MPLLC and although I've only talked to Sean a couple times last year I can say that my account's business has increased since this incident and not decreased. I've noticed MPLLC's total orders have dropped some but it's clearly a result of this ongoing 12 page thread.


I don't understand why the RxDome account was not shut down immediately and this is not because I'm afraid of spam or care whether they allow it but rather because it was clear from the start that MPLLC's interest in this market would be penalized by the community if they didn't cancel it.


MPLLC's mistake in this hasn't much to do with spam but instead living up to a spotless reputation. If they were a public company, they missed earnings but demolished revenues...a temporary setback.


They'll survive though...I'm not changing anylinks smileys/smiley2.gif

[Vulture]

i'm giving them til midnight tonight then i'm switching over my few daily sales as well

[Basic]

I'm with Vultch. I'm giving to midnight... then I'm switching over my 5 sales a day. I'm pretty much already started but I thought midnight would be a good deadline.


What bothers me the most is the way they treat us. The should respect each and every affiliate no matter if you are a super or a daddler. Not showing the respect to contact all affiliates via email and let us be aware of the problem shows that they are only worried about themselves. I could really care less if they contact me personally or whatever because that is wrong. I expect them to contact every affiliate. Calling only one affiliate shows that as long as they make the angry ones happy they can still take orders from the ones who are out of the loop.


I still think they must be crazy for keeping those site live... The only reasoning I have now is they see how bad it hurt their business doing what they did thatthey have to have it live to keep the customers.


All I have to say is to MPLLC in the future please face your problems... by running away and trying to cover things up has hurt your business 50 times of what it would have if you would have simply face it, cancelled the spamming accounts, and sent out an email to every affiliate you have informing us of the situation. It would have been that simple but now it has come to this. It shows your affiliates watch your every move, especially here.


PS-Please no iCollect or MPPLC praising posts either. The only thing that us affiliates what to hear is directly from Howard, Aaron, Tony or the owners. We don't want to here that you think they are the next great thing since slice bread its old. We want and deserve answers!


Basic

[Mr Ed]

I'm with Vultch. I'm giving to midnight... then I'm switching over my 5 sales a day. I'm prettymuch already started but I thought midnight would be a good deadline.





Ditto. They have till Midnight and I'm also gone to PA. And this ain't no April Fools Joke.

[icollect]

I'm with Vultch. I'm giving to midnight... then I'm switching over my 5 sales a day. I'm prettymuch already started but I thought midnight would be a good deadline.





Ditto. They have till Midnight and I'm also gone to PA. And this ain't no April Fools Joke.






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What happened to your horse man? I think if your trying to spark a popular uprising here, I don't think it'll work. Folks will do what is in their own self interest to do. It's also been my experience that blackmail has never worked in business. Good luck anyway.

[overdose]

MPLLC's mistake in this hasn't much to do with spam but instead living up to a spotless reputation.





couldn't agree more, act professionally, a good lesson for those who manages or to start their own affiliate programs.






If they were a public company, they missed earnings but demolished revenues...a temporary setback.





but don't forget howpublic treated the oneswith accounting issues.

[Vulture]

It's also been my experience that blackmail has never worked in business

they're blackmailing us with their silence (and 'empty' posts) and not shutting down those refill stealers

[Joe 90]

What now concerns me the most is the amount of people (me included) who's refills have dropped to zero or very few. I could count on quite a few reorders month in month out before march, but they've all disappeared. So far, I've only seen one post saying their sales have increased slightly lately but many posts saying theirs are in the crapper...something is definitely out of whack and needs to be addressed pronto.


Just appeasing the big boy affiliates is wrong. I still have MPLLC in high regard, but my patience is wearing thin for sure. Howard has told me about the hacking problem a week or so ago, but I've not seen or heard of what or if any action has been taken.


This whole debacle has all been one huge pain in the ass. I for one would like to see more feedback from Howard or Aaron-keep us in the loop, please guys.

[skeeter]

RxDome still active.STILL NO response to affiliates.STILLprobably STEALING refills.STILL probably f**king over everyone.


iCollect, old man, I'm surprised your lips haven't fell off by now with all theSUCKING you do.

[rouletteyou]

I would like to know from everyone how bad you reorder stats are.

Mine:
Past 200 sales
84=42%


Since this began 39% reorder rate

Before it began 45% reorder rate

That is why I am having a hard time believing this is widespread

[drugsdr]

Past 200 sales

47 = 23.5%





Since this begain 9.8%



Before this began 34.8%



When my re-order rate falls from mid 30's to below 10% I say there is a problem!

[Gavin]

Since this began6.2%

Before this began 31.3%



Those are my numbers and I'll never see them improve because I've gone on to greener pastures.

[Bad Ass Rocker]

I've never really promoted mpllc... I've pretty much always stuck with Jive... It seems to me that Jive has a whole lot less dramatics going on... Anyway, I don't really care about any of this, because I don't have one link towards mpllc and haven't for a long time. But if and when Jive kicks the bucket and mpllc is still around, I'll gladly eat my words...But just "thumbing" through these posts, it does seem a little quirky that all of these posts from mpllc are beating around the bush. I understand that such words not be spoken publicly, but that is why you have an affiliate mailing list... Why not send an email to all of your affiliates explaining why things are as they are? Being very, extremely descriptive with everything to continue to set some affiliates mind's at ease and starting with others...


This729 page topic is ridiculous...when all is needed is a simple email... and everyone is happy...

[Basic]

I just got done switching my links over to RXP.


MPLLC you guys are truly unprofessional. If your database got hacked, as you say, then it is your right to inform each and every affiliate of this.


You can't talk about it publicly? Like the BadAss one said, "but that is why you have an affiliate mailing list... Why not send an email to all of your affiliates explaining why things are as they are? " Sending an email to your affiliates is not talking about this matter publicly. We are what make up your company.


I love the fact even more that someone could have our SSN#'s, bank accounts, and all our personal information and you guys have kept quiet, you have beat around the bush, and haven't said a damn thing! You would think it'd be common professional courtesy to tell us that someone has hacked into our personal information and financial and inform us that we could be a victim of identity theft or even if they didn't hack, the only excuse we've heard so far, that part of the database you could let us know that our personal information and financial was safe. But instead, you play hush hush because you knew affiliates would leave in droves or be fired up if this got out. Plain and simple... not professional, not ethical, not right!


The only thing that isunprecedented with your program is you lack of communication with your affiliates and selfishness. A month is way to long for something like this to be resolved. It should have went on no less than a day before we heard communication on this matter from your company!


All I can say is I'm glad I don't have to deal with this mess anymore, at least I hope so... someone could have acess to my bank account... no affiliate should put up with this crap. First and foremost, affiliates areyour customers not the patients, the patients wouldn't be there without us---and it showsyou have treated your customers (affiliates) like dirt! My 5 sales a day might not hurt your bottom line and you may not give a damn but trust me, I'mneither thefirst nor the last affiliate you have lost because the way you have donebusiness on this crucial matter.


PS --- At least when HMU was screwing us over they posted it and made it known.


PPS --- iCollect save your MPLLCcheerleading posts for another time, neither I nor any other affiliates want to hear it. They are starting to sound pathetic.


Distrubedand relieved for switching,


Basic

[RxRob]

Wow. First, I haven'tremoved any linksfrom HSN/MPLLC, yet.Anyway, by the looksof my order id numbers, sales volume for the program seems tohave dropped.


I guessseveral "small fries" can make a difference. smileys/smiley22.gif

[juancarlos]

RxRob. Hallelujah!


Yep! We "Small Fries" "Newbies"are not always as new as guys like Howard think. As matter of fact, some of us "Newbies" were running programs many of "Howards" use to be a small fry affiliate for at one point or another. As I told Howard. This "Newbie" leaving will be reflected in his order number. Glad to seenot all my clients left for RXMPLLCDOME. One thing. In hindsight.Between all the server crashes and 1990's backend. I should have flipped my links to RXP earlier. I am already getting more sales from my 3 flipped sites in the past two days (Thursday and Friday)then I got the last three weeks they were with MPLLC and definitely more then any Thursday Friday in the past when with MPLLC before the RXDOME THEN SCREW ME thing began.


iCollect: As before not interested in your "Howard, Howard he is our man, if he can't do it no one can"Still a played out tune.


J (not Juan)

[ArexCare]

Still seems to me (from prev. exp.), that ifan MPLLCsite has satisfied customers, that the 'small fries' won't make much of a difference. Most customers will tend to return to a consistant site that they've ordered from, and not go to 'unknowns'. As far as the spam, the consumer should be a tad bit curious about the change and phone the toll-free number of the MPLLC site they've been ordering from to check-out the change before re-ordering via RxDome.


Still hanging on for some resolution, along with the idea that MPLLC is only practicing healthy discretion about publishing the details until the time is right.

[juancarlos]

This isn't Microsoft, MCIWorldcom or Enron. We are talking about a bunch of people selling meds online getting their commision checksin their grandmother's bank account. Last time I checked MPLLC wasn't public so "Not Publishing"is not about keeping the stock price up.


Healthy Discretion doest pay my bills! Oh and about the small fries. They make a difference when you sell each small fry twice a month. I am glad you didn't teach my business class at <st1:City><st1:place>Berkley</st1:place></st1:City>.


P.s. Arexcare (iCollect) doesn't matter under what name you post your MPLLC praises. Still the same old SH*T

[Vulture]

yeah .. it's way past my own midnight deadline but i've just shifted my
traffic .. PA is now getting my daily peanuts that previously
went to mpllc

[icollect]

This isn't Microsoft, MCIWorldcom or Enron. We are talking about a bunch of people selling meds online getting their commision checksin their grandmother's bank account. Last time I checked MPLLC wasn't public so "Not Publishing"is not about keeping the stock price up.


Healthy Discretion doest pay my bills! Oh and about the small fries. They make a difference when you sell each small fry twice a month. I am glad you didn't teach my business class at <st1:City><st1:place>Berkley</st1:place></st1:City>.


P.s. Arexcare (iCollect) doesn't matter under what name you post your MPLLC praises. Still the same old SH*T










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My friend, you are proof, that the mind is indeed a terrible thing. If a person sends you .005% of your total business and they are a 100% PITA, you fire them.Itcost more per unit to allow the little fish to swim in the lake. They write one check for the ton of orders that a big fish gets. They have towrite many checks to all the little fish for the same number of units. They also have to spend as much or more time holding your hand, while you learn, all aboutbusiness.


I'm all for little fish, but not the kind that bites the hand that feeds you. You guys beat the hell out of this program, then expect somebody to be disappointed your pulling your links. Real life, real business, most companies, are just happy tosaybye bye.


If your going to educate me, please make sure your right.


You recruiters amaze me, instead of touting your program, you try to beat the hell out of someone else's. A couple of suggestions.


1. Get out of Florida, It's illegal to operate in Florida.


2.It's also illegal to try to recruit the unknowing into a criminal enterprise.


3. Build a better mousetrap. Then you won't have to fill the board up with negative bullsh*t. There's a reason MPLLC is #1, find out what that is, and then compete fairly.


4. If you guys spent half as much time building websites as you did bitching, you'd be rich.

[juancarlos]

Like I said. Arexcare, iCollect, Your posts are predictable.


(actually, about the only thing I do agree with you is that selling Phen through PA in FL is pretty stupid)


Back to building websites...

[Neeko]

Been lurking here while waiting for something to be done about this situation. I don't have any clue what type of fish I am but I can't put up with this secret hiding stuff anymore so I just moved my sites over to another reputable program. As others have stated before in this post, I use this $$$ to feed my family andnot being honest with us shows they don't care. You knew the fun with HSN had to end some time. Its sad it happened like this.smileys/smiley6.gif


-Neek

[RxRob]

Florida isn't even in the drop down box on my PA order form.


Anyway, I hope my MPLLC/HSN sales volume goes back up. It's gone to Hell over the past couple days for some reason. smileys/smiley19.gif

[Steve]

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Hey guys, stuff like this is the norm in this industry...move on. I got shafted a few times, the most expensive 14k ish..yeah it hurt. Just move links, pure and simple.


Then in 1/2/3/4 months time you will be shafted again and so it goes on. The only way to beat these guys is move quickly. Absolutely no discussion; move links. I can't see the point of threats, why warn what you are gonna do ?


Just do it, they luv threats cos they will console you with bs and your links stay that little bit longer..


Move on and stop harping

[skeeter]

TRYING TO LET THIS GO INTO THE SUNSET HOWARD????


bump.


bump.


bump.


AFFILIATES THAT ARE WITH MPLLC YOU ARE GETTING SCREWED! SWTICH LINKS NOW THERE ARE MANY OTHER PROGRAMS OUT THERE! DON'T DEAL WITH THESE LYING CROOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WHY IS PILLCOBRA.COM AND RXDOME.COM STILL ACTIVE????


THEY ARE THIEVES!!!!!!!

[ArexCare]

Like I said. Arexcare, iCollect, Your posts are predictable.


(actually, about the only thing I do agree with you is that selling Phen through PA in FL is pretty stupid)


Back to building websites...








Have disagreed with Icollect in the past, but in agreement (and with greatly increased respect) in recent months. Agreed with your last two points, and...back to my sites shortly myself.