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icollect
November 4th, 2003, 02:20 PM
Great court ruling that offers webmasters immunity from prosecution!





http://wvgazette.com/section/News/2003110333 (http://wvgazette.com/section/News/2003110333)






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<TD colSpan=2>Fairmont store can continue pharmacy link to Canada

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<TD colSpan=2>By Charles Shumaker (cshumaker@wvgazette.com)
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A Fairmont business can continue helping its customers order prescription drugs from Canada despite the state Board of Pharmacy's complaints, a Kanawha County judge ruled Monday.


Kanawha Circuit Judge Duke Bloom said the business operated by Carole and Steve Becker is not a pharmacy and, therefore, not regulated by the board.


Bloom's ruling could set a national precedent, as it appears to be the first time a state pharmacy board has failed to stop an operation like the Beckers' business, said Kevin Outterson, a law professor at West Virginia University.
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The Beckers filed suit in Kanawha Circuit Court after the state Board of Pharmacy alleged they were advertising the business as a pharmacy. The board told them to stop operating and threatened enforcement if the board's order was ignored.


"Discount Prescription Center does not dispense, retail or compound prescription drugs or prescription devices and, thus, is not a `pharmacy' as defined by [state law]," Bloom said.


Bloom did have some concern over the name of the business, which he said has the potential to confuse or mislead the public.


Steve Becker said he would change the name as soon as possible.


During a court hearing early last month, Carole Becker explained the operation. Becker said she directs people to Internet Web sites for Canadian pharmacies and helps them send in their orders.


Becker said her customers are usually poor, elderly or computer illiterate. Most spend half of their income on drugs.


The Beckers said they do not provide any medical advice and do not stock drugs or dispense drugs from their locations. The company's services net about $500 per month, Carole Becker told Bloom during the hearing.


Since that hearing, Steve Becker said the business has picked up customers and similar locations will be opening soon in Charleston and Vienna, Wood County.


A Charleston location will be run out of the existing Music Mania in the Kanawha Mall, Steve Becker said.


Though he hadn't read Bloom's ruling Monday evening, Steve Becker said he was encouraged by the news.


"The point is that everyone is suffering tremendously under the burden of these drug prices," Steve Becker said. "I mean, we're happy. I think it's the right ruling and the only possible ruling."


Becker said he would continue to monitor the federal government's involvement in cases of foreign prescription services. A court case in Oklahoma is pending before a federal judge there. A decision in that case could dictate the federal government's enforcement role in such cases.


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redex
November 4th, 2003, 02:24 PM
[QUOTE=icollect]Great court ruling that offers webmasters immunity from prosecution!{/QUOTE]


We all know we are not guilty of any crimes. BUT we can be shut down and wehave to spend sh*tloads of money on attorneys andgoto court and get it overturned like they did.

icollect
November 4th, 2003, 02:28 PM
Redex, your right, but at least when we go we have precedence now. It's important that the legal definition for a pharmacy has now been established in court. In addition we are not subject to regulation by state boards. A glimmer of light in the darkness.

NewbiusMaximus
November 4th, 2003, 02:46 PM
Boy, you're just a negative nelly aren't you Red? smileys/smiley2.gif,smileys/smiley8.gif

DEWIE42
November 4th, 2003, 02:50 PM
Dont you go picking on Redex....or you will answer to the Bread Lady smileys/smiley2.gif(not that he cant defend himself or slam you hard here at this Forum himself)smileys/smiley8.gifI like the court ruling and Redex would pay all our legal fees anyway. So no need to worrysmileys/smiley4.gif

icollect
November 4th, 2003, 03:08 PM
Redex is sharp, we all need to be aware that the government can use the tatic spend them broke. They charge you, even though they know they're going to loose, so you spend a fortune. This ruling does make it tougher for them to do that, because your not using an ignorance defense, but one based in law.

redex
November 4th, 2003, 03:20 PM
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<TD class=text>Boy, you're just a negative nelly aren't you Red? http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/smileys/smiley2.gif,http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/smileys/smiley8.gif</TD></TR></T></TABLE></TD></TR></T></TABLE></TD></TR></T></TABLE>


Sorry if I offended you or bummed you out. I stated fact (in my opinion LOL ) If we have precedence, then, it is ten minutes in front of the judge and he throws it out. If we cdo not have precedence, we fight a lengthy and expensive battle.


You can bet your ass a similar statement tothis one is going on all my sh*t ASAP!


Discount Prescription Center does not dispense, retail or compound prescription drugs or prescription devices, neither does Redex http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/smileys/smiley16.gif

stevie
November 4th, 2003, 08:25 PM
There's less likelyhood you'll get hauled in when a precedent like this is set and YOUR lawyers know about it.

rxcdn
November 4th, 2003, 08:39 PM
You can bet your ass a similar statement tothis one is going on all my sh*t ASAP!
No sh*t!! Isn't that like the greatest quote ever, and from a JUDGE!

Excellent article you found icollect.

chicago
November 4th, 2003, 09:17 PM
i already had it copied and pasted before I was done reading the thread

icollect
November 4th, 2003, 10:35 PM
Thank you guys, your the backbone of this industry. You share your experience and insights, Help newbies out, and keep all of us on our toes. Great job to all of you guys!!!

chicago
November 4th, 2003, 10:43 PM
are you being sarcastic or serious?


sorry but it's hard for me to tell the tone of text on a screen sometimes.

icollect
November 5th, 2003, 12:25 AM
Serious as a heart attack

nightowl
November 5th, 2003, 04:17 PM
Icollect,


I kinda did a quick news search using"SteveBecker" and"Discount Prescription Center". Came up with this older news piece among others:


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/17/eveningnews/main55 9077.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/17/eveningnews/main559077.shtml)


Seems to me that the Beckers were operating an actual physical storefront and not just a virtual storefront.Many of their customersare computer illiterate and therefore will visittheBeckers' Discount Prescription Center toplace their orders.


&lt;quote from thecbs news article&gt;"People have been ordering medicine on the Internet at home for years. The new concept is these discount centers are "middlemen" for people who don't know how to use the Internet. The owners get their fees from the Canadian pharmacies."&lt;end quote&gt;


Be that as it may, question now is how this applies to our situation, i.e. "virtual storefront". Also this seems to be more about the FDA'scurrent obsession tocrack down on foreign importation of meds.



Nightowl

icollect
November 6th, 2003, 03:57 AM
Nightowl, they would have much less than a defense than us, because by setting up a storefront and executing the order, your a lot closer to prescribing and dispensing. Now, if you say, I am a pharmacy, I dispense these medications, you are putting yourself forward as a pharmacy(pharmacist) and by your own admission would be a pharmacy. So the best thing is not to imply that you are a pharmacy, but an advertiser.