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sten909
November 4th, 2003, 02:33 PM
Maybe you should thank Myrxbiz program then for bringing heat to all OP's.

990 listings on them just in google about them spamming pharmacy sites:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-885 9-1&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=myrxbiz+spam

They hire spammers to advertise there pharmacy program. And they used to even provide them with website hosting for free.

They also have a mortgage lead program for spammers. Which pays spammers for leads they can bring in via email spam.

RxRob
November 4th, 2003, 03:02 PM
Thanks Myrxbiz.

MedMan
November 4th, 2003, 03:09 PM
This has been known for a long time now, but they would rather get the money now then be in this biz for the long term.


I believe I posted once before that they were sponsors over at specialham.com. That alone should tell you a lot.


Spammers can bring in well over $100K a month profitif they do it right so there will never be anything you can tell them that will make them stop. They'll only stop spamming meds when the Gov't puts us all our of business. Sad, but true.

icollect
November 4th, 2003, 03:16 PM
This spam practice is really bad, one thing is for sure people perceive spam offers to be scams, unless they're from a major company like Sears. The spam is always worded to make it sound like online pharmacies circumvent the law. On top of that more than half of all spam is just an outright rippoff, no product sent, or fradulent product sent. rxbiz stop! Treat your webmasters right and you won'thave to spam.

phalaris
November 4th, 2003, 03:47 PM
one thing is for sure people perceive spam offers to be scams, unless they're from a major company like Sears.


A vast majority of new internet users or less tech savvy people (say AOL dialup users) don't know the difference between a legit email and a spam and there are many well educated people too who buy from spammers.


Read this:


http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,59907,00.html

sten909
November 4th, 2003, 03:50 PM
Here's a post I found by MYRXBIZ on a message board where spammers hang out...


Out networking system has been revamped to be more solid. We have instituted a network of 12+ servers all over the world for redundancy. The DNS is being handled by a dedicated DNS server cluster. This means that the DNS servers don't host websites, and the web servers don't host DNS.

We've already paid out the nose for this nice new system, and we want to see people using it.

We took a loss last month on the people we hosted. The best mailers we have do their own hosting. I am seriously considering terminating all hosting for mailers unless this new system works great, and people take advantage of it to the point where it actually makes more money than it costs. Furthermore, since the hosting accounts for less than 10% of our sales it would be one less headache for sure.

In summary, we have stable hosting now on a new format that has been up for over a week now, and not enough people are using to come even close to the amount possible with 12+ servers. This may be the last month we host anyone. I would hate to see the massive amounts of money and time that went into this network go to waste. If enough people use it, and the network works as well as planned, then we may continue to host, but only time will tell.

Since the mailers make 4 to 5 times the money we do per an order, it's probably silly to have even begun hosting everyone for free a long time ago. Many months ago it was probably a good move to get everyone to see how good the conversions are. Now everyone knows.

If you want to take advantage of what will be either the last month of free hosting that we provide, or the new beginning of a very good network, message me at myrxbizcom on aol instant messenger, or 215286749 on ICQ. You can also call 1-888-232-8107 x203.

icollect
November 4th, 2003, 08:18 PM
Phalaris, I amazed, spam just pisses me off. You know it's not worth it. I've got a whole lot of sites I've owned for 5 years or more, so I get spammed in the hundreds every day. Sometimes I track them down to their home phone and give them a ring, just to let them know what's it like to be intruded on. Next to murder, rape, and child abuse I put these right at the top level of scum.

stevie
November 4th, 2003, 08:27 PM
If you want to go meet with them they're at adtech in New York right now


www.ad-tech.com (http://www.ad-tech.com)

sten909
November 4th, 2003, 08:50 PM
Thats insane they are at that marketing convention. Heres the info


YourRxBiz.com|www.YourRxBiz.com (http://www.yourrxbiz.com/)
Booth#: 3
www.YourRxBiz.com The #1 "Online Pharmacy Program" in the world, affording our affiliate/partners the largest payouts, the widest variety of medications, weekly bank-wire payouts, dedicated Toll-Free numbers, redundant doctors/pharmacies, outstanding 24/7 Customer Service, sophisticated "back-offices," fast set-up, and generous referral commissions.


From what I hear they have some pharmacy affiliates sending 60 million emails a day promoting meds. And we wonder why the DEA is getting pissed off. We owe it all to myrxbiz.


Myrxbiz, would you like to explain yourself?

Affiliate
November 4th, 2003, 09:01 PM
I'm not a big fan of myrxbiz butnothing we can do about it.I think we all know they are spammers.

sten909
November 4th, 2003, 09:22 PM
Well, atleast everyone will know that myrxbiz put this industry down.

chicago
November 4th, 2003, 09:23 PM
I dont think MyRxBiz is to blame for the foreign pharmacy spam...I personally feel another OP hassome sort ofrole in that though.

icollect
November 4th, 2003, 10:44 PM
You know I see rxbiz in all the affiliate forums recruiting affiliates, then sticking it to the hard working webmasters(affiliates who actually have websites) who have to work to build traffic, update links every other day, and keep up with ppc and search engine changes. In addition they send us all down the river with their short term money hungry approach to our industry. It really makes you wonder about their buisness ethics in general. Could you trust a company like that to keep acurate count of your sales?? I understand we all have profit and the bottom line in mind, but there's a right way and a wrong way. I don't want to put my ass on the line for a bunch of spammers that could give a damn about what we'll be doing in a year. Other than that rxbiz is allright in my book.

MyRxBizcom
November 6th, 2003, 01:49 AM
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krl
November 6th, 2003, 09:35 AM
I received a phone call from someone several months ago from http://www.grouprx.com asking me to sell for them. He went on and on bragging about how many spammers they have using them and if I would be interested. Anyone ever dealt with them? I decided against it.

Star
November 6th, 2003, 10:47 AM
Funny, when I talked to myrxbiz last year, they gloated about how much higher they could charge through emails, and how big of a money maker emails were.

MedMan
November 6th, 2003, 02:19 PM
And you guys are sponsors over at SpecialHam because.............?


And please don't tell us that somebody else signed you guys up as sponsors.


One more thing -I was told bymore than one of their affiliatesthat they give out a specialtoll-freephone number foraffiliates who "Email" so that angry spam recipients cannot shut down their phone system by attacking it. Although when you call this number, it is sure is down a lot! smileys/smiley5.gif

sten909
November 6th, 2003, 05:36 PM
myrzbiz advertises in all spammer messageboards. They are spammers.


They spent $60k a month for bullet proof hosting to keep their spammer affiliates up.


I would like to see them deny that!! smileys/smiley11.gif

MarketingMaster
November 6th, 2003, 07:01 PM
1. We do not host anyone. Not regular afffiliates, and definitely not spammers. We stopped providing hosting a long time ago.


2. The reason that you will see myrxbiz.com related to so much spam when you search it in google, is because a spamming maggot spidered all the worst anti's in the world, and joe jobbed (mailed an assinine message impersonating us) to the worst places possible on earth for 4 straight weeks.


3. We don't mail, and if you've seen the legislation in both California, and Virginia, you'd have to be pretty ballsy to be mailing unsolicited commercial email in this environment.


4. Looking at Sten's post count, I bet he's another competitor who's afffiliates are leaving him for us, and just decided to create a new nick to run his mouth. It wouldn't be the first time (or even the third) that an affiliate director make a new nic just to run his mouth without accepting the liability that comes with being a liar and having a real idenity.


5. Spam is a huge problem, and there are TONS of pharmaices spamming. Do a search for any pharmacy keyword with spam and you'll find TONS of mail that isn't ours. TONS! All the vicodin, hydro, oxy, valium, xanax, offshore...NONE of that has anything to do with us, as do most of the other listings. I'm sure somewhere theres an affiliate breaking our terms of service, and we don't catch him because we don't know how the affiliates market. All we see is orders. We have no way of identifying where those orders are generated.


6. If you are worried about the livelyhood of this industry, you need to look 2 places.
a. The idiots selling Hydro, Oxy, valium, vico, the list goes on and on.
b. The pricewhores. If you chart the retail prices and draw a line, you'll see exactly what the uncreative ("All I know how to do is price whore, or I can't make any sales") marketers are doing to the profitability of your hard earned orders.


I don't know anyone that does more work for their affiliates than we do. We are always here, we have the largest staff, and we're constantly committed to making you guys more money. It's sad to see a loser with6 posts come here and try to trash the hardest working (and in my opinion best) online pharmacy program (from many measurable metrics).[/QUOTE]

MarketingMaster
November 6th, 2003, 07:02 PM
That above post is hilarious - who are these guys trying to fool?

Rosebud
November 7th, 2003, 02:57 PM
that is so funny, i got one of there template sites a while ago and they phoned me and encouraged me to spam there products, i know aHUGE list of spammers, but i didnt want to encourage the mailers to work this for this company, they seemed to hungry for me to create biz for them, i trust a company that doesnt beg me for my business.myrxbix is spam!! lets spam direct to them, i have several of there employees email addys, hehe