Other areas

[pillz]

Anyone care to share other areas ( non op) that are doing well. I've been in a few but none seem to pull decent $$ in. Ive done debt consolidaiton, travel, various consumer items, but no program even comes close to op's. I've thought about payday loans, but haven't done anything yet.

[phalaris]

Travel sucks and this is not likely to change for next 1 year or so. Margin/sale is very small.


I have never tried payday loans but have had limited success with online dating sites in the recent past. I used to make a lot of money from casinos but income from that side is on the decline due to a lot of reasons.


I'd like to see what other fellow affiliates are thinking of doing if OP business is killed by DEA and law makers in next 6 months or less?


Rxsponsor are you here? You posted a few weeks ago that you are looking into some alternative fields and will post about that. Any words of wisdom from you?

[FredB]

Yup I am interested too. I came from the telcom world where I still make good dollars. The only problem is when I started the rates were around 5c/min. Now they are around 2.8c/min and the many cellphones are offering free long distance so while my sales are consistent the commissions have been reducing. The big plus is the commission is recurring.

[phalaris]

FredB, you sell toll-free numbers?

[andrew13]

I don't think that everybody will share the best programs ... as this board has a lot ofof professional web masters and so nobody whants to heve "tight" competition.


This question was asked several times on different boards without any results.


I'm doing well in some other areas (maximum is1/3 of what I have in OP), but will not share it "for free" smileys/smiley2.gif. So OP is still the best ... but for how long I don't know.

[RxSponsor.com]

Well (clearing throat),


I don't see anything that compares to the demand and great commisions that we make selling lifestyle drugs. We have become so spoiled that what else could even come close?


But there are other programs out there that can make us money. We must re-adjust our thinking and realize that it will take 5 or 6 other products/services to sell that would equal just selling drugs.


It's just more work but if you really want to have a good income from the net then you will need to market more than one product.


The key above all else is getting traffic from places like Google in the "natural" listings. Those listings convert at an UNBELIEVABLE rate.


My friend Greg bought those listings from King-Phen and he is raking in the money right now.


So, take any decent program and find yourself a service that can get listings on Google and if you hit the first page of results then watch the money pour in.


I am personally heavy into new car leads. They only pay $7.00-$9.00 per leadbut I make 7-8k a month with my sitehttp://autofinder.comthanks to 700-800 unique hits per day.


Take a guess on how many searches people do on Overture for the term"new car"?? Whatta think 300k ? 1 million? Try almost 7 million searches a month.


I am getting into: inkjet refills, herbals, fitness products, car warranties (pay $100.00 per lead) just to name a few.


I have the person I need to market the stuff on Google for me so I'm set.


I have just launched a new forum for affiliate programs to help people find the programs and marketing etc.


Don't want to give out the URL because I'm not about to piss off Admin. He would have to give me the green light to do so. I'm not going to take a free ride off of his hard work.


If anyone really wants it they can find me.


Anyhow, yes we can make money. Just pick a handfull of programs and get that traffic without PPC draining your wallet!!

[FredB]

Phalaris yup toll free numbers no problem. FWIW also cellphones, long distance,bundled services and calling cards.

[phalaris]

I agree with Rxsponsor that getting the traffic from free search engine listings (read google) is the key to success.


Anyone else want to add something?

[King_Phen]

> free search engine listings (read google) is the key to success.<


>"natural" listings. Those listings convert at an UNBELIEVABLE rate<


>I have the person I need to market the stuff on Google for me so I'm set<


As you know, unless you have the skill sets to do this on your own, it will always be a struggle to rank for competive key words. The issue of hiring an SEO to do the work for you gets quite complicated because most quality SEO's wont work on a contract basis for affiliates. Why would they?It is far more lucrative for a provenquality SEO to just sign up for the program themselves and reap ALL the benifits rather just a small piece.


Getting ranked in the "organic" listings in Google and Inktomi for hyper competitive terms is sooo lucrative that I would be very leary of any SEO that would take on such terms on a contract basis. If the SEO is good enough to play with the big dogs, why wouldn't he be doing it for himself?


My 2 nickels.

[phalaris]

I mostly agree with what you said king_phen. I know a fewSEOs from webmasterworld who no longer work for any client. Affiliate income is too lucrative forthem too.


Basically you can outsource the parts of a project (like site design, reciprocal linking etc.) but you have to hold all the parts together yourself... but many if not most people here aresmart enough to do that jobin a proper way.

[Buzz]

I know a fewSEOs from webmasterworld......


Off topic, but man, I hardly ever go to webmasterworld anymore. Google's change really ruined that community.

[OU812]

I sell lots of things, from cell phones to underwear, and this
season is the best one of the year, obviously. I've had more
success selling that stuff than meds.

With the purchase of CJ, the landscape in general affiliate
market is oging to change rapidly, IMHO, so that independent
programs will be more profitable.

[phalaris]

I know a fewSEOs from webmasterworld......


Off topic, but man, I hardly ever go to webmasterworld anymore. Google's change really ruined that community.





Yes, end of monthly google dance in May-June after what was named update dominic has seen many webmasters leaving webmaster.


I'm just coming from there after going through a thread that was talking about CJ.com's move into "organic SEO". Put it in simple words they will compete with us for spots in free search engine listings. So OU812 you are also correct that independent programs maybe more profitable but the problem is that I have been burned by merchants many time before who disappear at the time of payments leaving me high-and-dry, without paying me or paying me after a long delay. The major advantage of CJ is that youget paid on time.

[Affiliate]

The money is out there justlook at James Martell. He claims to make over $50K a month. Check out his crappy sites http://www.1st-in-net-shopping.com

[rxcdn]

I read a long time ago, martell makes over $20k from cj alone. And that is less that half of his monthly overall income. Which would equal the approx $50k like Affiliate said. This was way before adsense ever came out.

NOW he said on some discussion board since adding adsense his income has TRIPLED. WTF is he making 150k a month?! And that is USD too. He lives in canada so that is like 2.5million/year from "clean" subjects.

If this is true, then he must be quite happy and congrats to him!

I think he has several 'networks' like the 1st-in-shopping ones. If you check out some top rankings for his subjects, the all look very similar and appear to be registered with the same domain hiding proxy.

[Affiliate]

Unf-in believable! smileys/smiley1.gifI need to clone myself 3x.


I'm not a true believer in adsence. Why send traffic away from your sites? I guess I'll have to try it for a few weeks.

[Buzz]

I've heard of some people making 10k/mo. off of Adsence.


If pharmacy has taught me one thing, anything is possible on the net.

[netspots]

I sell lots of things, from cell phones to underwear...


Same here. Same products, too! http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/smileys/smiley1.gif

[OU812]

I made almost 1k on adsense last month. That was before their
PSA specifically outlawed putting adsense on 404s. It will be
about 1/3 of that this month.

[Affiliate]

I added adsense to one of my sites late yesterday after reading this thread and I already made about $50. Not bad. I'll let it play out the rest of the week.

[phalaris]

My problem is that I don't have any content site. All my sites are product specific sites. I'm not sure if it is agood idea toadd adsense on product specific sites where I'm looking to push my visitors to merchants I'm promoting or to the "buy" button incase of my OP sites. Looks like adsense is fit for content sites or sites that produce very little revenue.

[Affiliate]

I agree with you pharis. I'm going to look at the numbers end of the week and decide if I should stick with adsense. The site I put it on does about 3 orders per day average. Yesterday I still did 3 order and made $31 on adsense. Looking pretty good so far! This isn't an Rx site.

[scottdaman]

Well (clearing throat),


I don't see anything that compares to the demand and great commisions that we make selling lifestyle drugs. We have become so spoiled that what else could even come close?


But there are other programs out there that can make us money. We must re-adjust our thinking and realize that it will take 5 or 6 other products/services to sell that would equal just selling drugs.


It's just more work but if you really want to have a good income from the net then you will need to market more than one product.


The key above all else is getting traffic from places like Google in the "natural" listings. Those listings convert at an UNBELIEVABLE rate.


My friend Greg bought those listings from King-Phen and he is raking in the money right now.


So, take any decent program and find yourself a service that can get listings on Google and if you hit the first page of results then watch the money pour in.


I am personally heavy into new car leads. They only pay $7.00-$9.00 per leadbut I make 7-8k a month with my sitehttp://autofinder.comthanks to 700-800 unique hits per day.


Take a guess on how many searches people do on Overture for the term"new car"?? Whatta think 300k ? 1 million? Try almost 7 million searches a month.


I am getting into: inkjet refills, herbals, fitness products, car warranties (pay $100.00 per lead) just to name a few.


I have the person I need to market the stuff on Google for me so I'm set.


I have just launched a new forum for affiliate programs to help people find the programs and marketing etc.


Don't want to give out the URL because I'm not about to piss off Admin. He would have to give me the green light to do so. I'm not going to take a free ride off of his hard work.


If anyone really wants it they can find me.


Anyhow, yes we can make money. Just pick a handfull of programs and get that traffic without PPC draining your wallet!! Pure f***en gold. Becareful with posts like this, people like me copy / print andactually put it to use!

[RxSponsor.com]

Don't forget that when we do have "mainstream meds" to sell with no DEA hassles, we can make stillnice money.


The good thing is that instead of having a hundred one page sites, we can brand the heck out one website. Adding content and nice features will keep people coming back for more.


The mentality of sellingthe lifestyle drugs will be history. No more "Fast Money." We will be making less commission but more salesbased onvolume froma dedicated effort to offer a great resource to the customer as well as offering other products like nutritional & vitamins.


I can't wait till I have this to offer my visitors..

[phalaris]

Pure f***en gold. Becareful with posts like this, people like me copy / print andactually put it to use!


That was good attempt to encourage someone who is honestly trying to share with us something of great value.


Grow up dude, just grow up. I told you another day that you are not too heavy to deal with for someone who is already competing with 1 million pages out there. I guess you didn't print my advice.

[scottdaman]

That was good attempt to encourage someone who is honestly trying to share with us something of great value.


Grow up dude, just grow up. I told you another day that you are not too heavy to deal with for someone who is already competing with 1 million pages out there. I guess you didn't print my advice.





If you are talking to me, I don't know what the hell you are talking about! <shrug> smileys/smiley5.gif

[janet]

The good thing is that instead of having a hundred one page sites, we can brand the heck out one website. Adding content and nice features will keep people coming back for more.





the main problem is that one wrong doing with google and your lost, never carry all the eggs in one basket. I am doing online casino as well and over 170 other indestries, some good and some no so, the issue is that we are learning al the time, one thing I can share is that online casino is still a good thing if you are on the 1st page of the 3 top phrases, else do not expect more then 20K a month from this indestry


/Janet


P.S., just joined this private Lounge and I am seeing many IDs which I recognise from the casino Proffesor forum, so Hi everyone, OLD and new :->

[andrew13]

20K per month on casino ???


I was #1 for "gambling online" for about 2 weeks and this site briought me about $200 ...


I have started in march and now have 15 web sites, but totally have about $300 - $400 per month ... and no hope to exceed these numbers as competition even harder then here. Probably I'm doing wrong stuff :(


The good thing for me is hotels reservations, but after this update O lost about 80% of that traffic and now hope only for my OP sites.