Darn I love This Business!

[fastrx]

I hope it all works out in the end. http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/smileys/smiley19.gif


Pray, meditate, or what ever you do ..lol


http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/smileys/smiley17.gifWe are dealing with the Untimate Revenge of the Nerds...


If they would just take some no prior rx xanax we could all just get along ..lol


Shoot spend some time chasing the crack and coke sellers and leave us alone


<<<<venting sorry...

[icollect]

They can't win the war on illegal drugs! We're easy targets and there is huge money involved and the big boys are going after it. The only difference between us and them is they'll be doing exactly what we're doing after we're out of buisness. The whole key from their perspective is to get us out of buisness.


I believe in what I'm doing, go to any of the medical chat boards and read the horror stories. Big buisness has never and will never care about the suffering of the poor and unisured. I can't say I don't appreciate the money I make, but more than that I know that people who suffer from low self esteem because of weight, have meds, People who are in pain have meds, people who suffer from anxiety have meds. These people are big buisnesses failures, they are people who don't trust erect building doctors, who've been told to take the worlds most caustic medicine, that's killed more people than smallpox, NSAIDS. People Who can't affoard Insurance or are uninsured. Most of all those that are afraid of erect buildings, because of the same people that persue us now, the DEA.


All if we have to do is anything. Right now we're doingnothing as an industry, waiting on government to tell us who we are. To them we're in the way of drugstore.com and others. It's up to us to define ourselves and then we will be unstoppable. They may be large companies but they are slow to react and stupid. They will foldwith the first reasonable solution we present.

[MedsDirect]

The market is evolving, the business model is adapting...


We are all in a position where we need to change the way we do business, and in some cases the products we offer, but the customers arent going anywhere. People need our services and will adjust to whatever new systems are put in place to fill those needs.


I just got a call from my Uncle. He's a senior citizen with a serious back injury from a lifetime in construction. He called to ask for advice on getting prescriptions filled online. His doctor has had him on cyclobenzaprine, but my Uncle says its too strong, and he wants to move down to percoset or vicodin. His doctor told him he can get it online, but my Uncle isnt comfortable having his health care provided via a questionnaire with strangers. He said he was looking for a site that has their doctors get a copy of his medical records and have some sort of conversation with him regarding his history, to make sure that the treatment he is given is responsible and appropriate. He'll gladly pay the consult fee and stay a loyal customer.


The customers arent going away, and new ones are comming out that match the revised business models. Granted, there is turmoil, medications are getting pulled from OP offerings, Pharmacies and Doctors are getting shut down, but many OPs are adapting, changing and innovating to create a new business model that operates within the new requirements. Once those systems are in place things will stabalize again, at least untill the next set of changes ;)

[Bob Popular]

The biggest hurdle I see are with OPs based outside of the U.S. who cannot be touched by the FDA or DEA.They will be able to continue with the current model. (Online questionaires). The US based OPs will likely have to include a face to face or webcam doctor consultation. I don't see how a US based OP will be able to compete with this scenario.

[icollect]

Wow, here it is, the buisness is evolving, because now we're talking. We have to be inovators.


We already read drugstore.com's model is offline doctors visit, and fax in your script. They are not inovators, they intend to maintain the status quoa with the use of hired guns, the FDA and DEA. They say that both the internet and impoted drugs are very bad things. They say that we are evil and Canadian drugs are impure. This is the way they operate thru slander, force and manipulation of the media. We have to adapt to these new circumstances because the one thing they have never been able to maipulate are the facts.


We have to get the facts out to those that want to help.


The Public


The Congress


Their already in our corner, they just have to hear both sides of the story. If you read the articles, the senate is bending over backwards for us, they just want us to help out their cause by sticking up for ourselves and tell them what we're doing to reform our current model. This would buy us some time and discredit our adversaries.

[icollect]

The one thing that is for sure is the public doesn't trust foriegn ops. Too many ripoffs and seizures. They would gladly put up with a few minor changes on our part.

[RxSponsor.com]

The biggest hurdle I see are with OPs based outside of the U.S. who cannot be touched by the FDA or DEA.They will be able to continue with the current model. (Online questionaires). The US based OPs will likely have to include a face to face or webcam doctor consultation. I don't see how a US based OP will be able to compete with this scenario.





If it becomes illegal for US pharmacies to fill prescriptions without a proper visit with the doctor, then what U.S.Pharmacy would have the guts to break the law?


That wouldmake all the drugsentering the US by "online consultation,"illegal.


US customs is already putting a major dent in the generic drug businesscoming in from overseas by holding on to them.


It would become a black market no different than selling any illegal drug.


The goverment could even arrest the person who ordered the prescription because it was not obtained legally.


So if you are not playing by the rules, both buyer and seller could be subject to prosecution. This will scare off a whole lot of potential business....

[MedsDirect]

Who's to say we dont stand to make way more money on other meds that arent controlled?


Just because we are used to marketing Phentermine and vicodine doesnt mean that we cant do way better selling medication for diabetes, heart conditions, blood preasure, bone dissorders etc.


Wheight loss is a vanity item, the others are medical NEEDS.


Innovate.


Aaron Sallade


National Pharmacy Direct

[rxtoday]

DEA says you cant sell meds online just based on an online order form. Controlled meds or not controlled.


We need a solution asap to keep us making money.

[icollect]

Hey I'm with you brother, Evolve or die.I'd Loveto work with you guys on a lot of ideas I have. I think we are on the doorstep of a new age in medicine, or the greatest set back in the history ofscience and most of all for that thing they call humanity.

[MedsDirect]

DEA says you cant sell meds online just based on an online order form. Controlled meds or not controlled.


We need a solution asap to keep us making money.





Where is that stated? There hasn't been a single raid or complaint for ortho-tricyclin or flonase...

[medicineman]

rxtoday, or anyone, can you give me a reference to any DEA policy saying you can't sell any meds online based on an online medical evaluation form. I thought the problem was only with controlled drugs.

[icollect]

The problem is the Florida law that establishes what a doctor patient relationship is. The Dea, the link is in one of Affiliates recent post, says the prescriptions are not valid because a valid doctor/patient relationship did not exist. The bottom line is the DEA is using the Florida law to do what it was crafted to do, and that is to shut down ops. I will admit that Advair doesn't make as big of a headline, but I don't believe the law was crafted to make a distinction, it was too eliminate internet pharmacy operations, as most ops are based in Florida.

[redex]

rxtoday, or anyone, can you give me a reference to any DEA policy saying you can't sell any meds online based on an online medical evaluation form. I thought the problem was only with controlled drugs.





http://www.doh.state.fl.us/mqa/medical/rule_Telemedicine.pdf

[iggy]

That's what everyone here seems to be missing. It wouldn't be too terrible if they still offered some meds, but the law they are basing all this on states that ANY prescription based on an online consult...

[Affiliate]

But here they only mention controlled substances http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/pressrel/diversion_actualities (http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/pressrel/diversion_actualities_transcript.html) _transcript.html

[redex]

The DEA only has jurisdiction over controlled meds. The FDA and state level regulators have to burn the docs and the OPs for writing the levitra script or importing the generic viagra.

[kaylowe]

I've said before, there is no way the medical community would allow the laws/regs. to be written such that a physical exam is required before prescribing. After hours, doctors/practitioners often rotate call in order to allow some time off for everyone. My own dr.'s dr.-on-call does not know me from Adam. If he deemed it necessary, he could very well call in a sched. 3 med if he deemed that I need it. Done all the time. Also dentists. If I called my dentist right now, I might get a dentist on call. If I could convince him/her that I am in terrible pain, he/she would be within the law and good practice to call in a few doses of Lortab, or Darvocet, whatever to get me through until I could be seen. Now in the real world, I may very well get an rx for ultram instead, but a sched. 3 could be prescribed.


I can't see the DEA messing with that.


Kay

[iggy]

the fda, not the dea, will deal with non controlled scripts.

[icollect]

I think the point is, they will never enforce the law in the real world only in the virtual one. They are taking down florida ops one by one. The law was designed to be enforced strictly aganist online ops. The law doesn't make sense in any other context, and they are not beating around the "Bush", they are kicking in the door.