Linkish-SEO Deal... for lack of a better title.

[Pensive]

Ok, this is how this particular linkish-SEO project would work:

1) Webmasters would log into my site(s) at anytime they wish.

2) They would then add content pages about their own products or services (as it relates to drugs, supplements, and/or practically any health topic existing or new).

3) They could add one or two links to the web site they are promoting within the context or footer text of any content page they create.

4) The partner could also make money off of their own xml integrated ads placed above or within any page that they create.
Example of ad integrated above and within a content page on Lipodrene:
http://www.pharmacy-prescriptions.com/supplements-and-vitamins/weight-loss/lipodrene

In return, I would want one of the below in return:

1) A link or links from *another* site you might own that first must be approved by us before adding a link to it or adding content to our own site(s).

An example of what I don’t want is A (our site) linking to B (your site), then B back to A. Rather, I would want A (our site) to B (your site), then any of your C, D, or E, F, G sites back to A (our site) within a contextual link (a link appearing within a paragraph or sentence).

2) Or, a small payment per month for your full content pages (with ads) to run on our site(s). I'm thinking of something around $10-20 per page. I don't really want to go the pre-sell page route but since I know how content works, I may just go this route anyway.

3) Or, we could work out some bartering deal - like if you add 1, 3, or 10 pages with ads on our site, then we would partner with you (sub-affiliate or whatever) and both make money off of the ads running on your pages on our site.

4) Or, any other offer that might benefit us both not mentioned above :)

Check out one of our sites we’re currently offering this type of partnership on:

www.pharmacy-prescriptions.com

This site above is a sample of one of our Drupal powered sites (I love Drupal!). It's easy to module, skin, to do practically anything. This site above will also follow a "wellness and drug style portal" format.

Please PM me here or contact me though the site above by clicking the “contact” link at the top.

**NOTES**

No spammy content or webmasters writing about every pain medication under the sun - I want this site to became a heavy hitter, not a site about xanax. I only want webmasters willing to write original content about their own products, services, or health topics on the site above.

In fact, because I do not want to double my workload, I will approve content and approve webmasters willing to make their pages and the site successful. I want the site to be successful for everyone, not create more headache or be run into the ground by spammers.

If you don’t have any good sites that we can obtain a link from, or want to pay anything for pages you’ve added, then we could look at running our own ads around your content. Err, we have to make money somehow...

[Pensive]

No Interest?

[Bigmike J]

I have given up on link back as a means of seo. It does not seem to work for me anymore.. even when i just have related sites link back.

Google just loves crap now days. There was a time when it was fun to go and get link backs.. it competetion. Now i don't even know what to do as a means of seo.

Do the seo methods that worked 3 years ago still apply? I'm not an seo expert.. but i know what i learned and what i had working for me at one time. Then one day.. gone forever.

[Pensive]

Hello Bigmike.
Off-page factors are the biggest ranking measure from Google nowadays. I'm sure many people on the forum have noticed their backlinks drop significantly over the past 6 to 9 months, especially over the past 3 months with minor updates.

Further, with this latest PR update, I'm sure many have noticed a drop in their actual PR since backlinks they may've had up till then were reciprocals, non-relevant, or on sites that have no link juice themselves.

What works:

1) Spending the time to build one-way links from credible sources and getting contextual links from those sources, not links that simply look like:

Pharmacy Site Anchor text here - This is a description of the pharmacy site and blah, blah, blah.

2) Article distribution works pretty well for certain topics or products. For instance, we've distributed articles for certain non-rx products like Lipodreme, Xantrex, etc. and have seen some good boosts in the SE's.

We write and submit well written articles from my main SEO company, SEOposition.com. I have a system that works pretty good for this that we've perfected over the past 4-6 months.

3) Content, syndication, and more content - plus a healthy dose of interlinking/deeplinking. If anyone's noticed, most all of the pharmacy sites look the same, content is the same, and there are hardly any "real" additions of content.

I also work with a team of content writers who are always adding drug, health, and condition or disease related content. You just can't get by nowadays without updated, original content. they will even seed forums or discusion boards with content if needed.

4) Finally, I use Drupal for most of our pharmacy related sites now. Drupal is badass and very easy to create individual access for content writers or what have you.

If anyone is interested in having a Drupal site set up like the one I listed in my original post above, please let me know. I could probably get a decent looking pharmacy site up and running for $400-800 and provide some support to get you going.

Hope this helps

[TheIraqi]

Does the article circulation tend to be a temporary boost, if so have you stopped to see the increase or would you have to constantly maintain and add new artricles? How many articles can one write about certain products ?

[Pensive]

Does the article circulation tend to be a temporary boost, if so have you stopped to see the increase or would you have to constantly maintain and add new artricles? How many articles can one write about certain products ?

Hi,
Thanks for the question. I'll be glad to answer the best I can without "giving away the farm" so to speak.

All of the articles I submit play a role in what I like to call "hierarchy distribution." That's another totally different but related topic altogether. But essentially we wite only for article repositories that we've measured/ranked for either direct traffic or which boosts our page relevancy for more than a few month period.

In the stats I view daily, I can say that many of the later articles we've submitted and written for several sites have given steady boost in traffic over a 2/3 month period. No measurable decline in traffic at all.

For any one product, we might write 6-8 articles or more, but the secret is not to write each article for that one product page. We build 5, 6, 8, or more pages for that one topic and then use what I mentioned above as "hierarchy distribution" - the formula we've created.

We also provide this service for clients, many in tough markets like life insurance and health insurance, etc. The distributions, articles, and links within the articles along with the number of article repositories we submit too all plays part in not over-submitting or making just one product page become redundant or saturated within Google, MSN, and Yahoo.

Our prices for these services are:

For $249:
4 unique articles with keyword research and 10-12% target keyword densities and up to three embedded contextual links submitted to 30-40 of the top article directories.r

For $439:
8 unique articles with keyword research and 10-12% target keyword densities and up to three embedded contextual links submitted to 60-70 of the top article directories.

Of course we can do custom deals or ongoing deals...

[TheIraqi]

Hmmm....Interesting so what your saying is you build a library of articles with a targeted topic (ie industry, keywords etc) that you use your own propietary formula in ranking articles to search engine relevance, then over 6-8 articles you have created a highly relevant information resource to a specific market. An based on your Hierarchy of Articles formula would it be true to say that each time you release an article there is a noticeable increase in the traffic to the new article, but the main benefactor of the process is the article repository which is where each released article eventually winds up and becomes relevant to the predetermined keywords market. This page will steadily increase as each article is released and maintain the traffic over time. In the max package about it contains 8 articles which isn't a full year (1 article a month based on)and if i was to really see the benifit or have long term success it would be needed to continue until i either went out of business, Could this be priced on a monthly basis over an amount of time instead of one time? In you example now if you stopped after 8 articles wouldn't they become old or less relevant as time elapsed esp..in a dynamic industry. And since this is a RX forum could you predict the traffic you could generate for a website that has just been created only using your "Hierarchy" method over the say 6-8 article package?

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Hi,
We prefer longer term deals and tell clients up front the length of time they will likely have to build on article/press release marketing - whether 3 months or 9 months. Especially if the client has a new site (less than 1 to 1 1/2 years old) this makes building page reputation and popularity harder unless you are in a niche - which pharmacy is not :)

Since I'm familar with the pharmacy industry and have done competitive reports already, it would take a 4 month period to really see decent results in the SE's from articles and press releases.

That's why I mentioned us doing more custom deals because absolutely nothing nowadays in SEO is a "one-time shot" unless your ideas are phenoninal. IMO, steady results w/articles come from steady marketing - not "I did it for two months now watch me reap the traffic rewards."

A few important questions or notes about our process and determining factors of a successful campaign using articles:

1) It's all about the (pharmacy, drug, or health) site's reputation - have they been banned, penalized, or for other reasons performed poorly in the search engines up till now?

2) How old is the site - 1 yr, 2 yr, 5 yr?

3) How are the pages on the site formatted/written, i.e. outbound links to credible sources like WebMD, .gov sites, or others. Or is everything internal linking (yuck!!)

4) Inbound links and their reputation (biggie!!)

5) Site interlinking and deeplinking factors (surprisingly enough this is a significant part of
our success with health related resource sites)

If the site we're working on has all or most of the above they will strive forward faster and stay there longer. If they do not, then we can do things to get them back in so that syndicating press releases and articles will work.

Even if you are banned, we have way of getting you back into Google. ;)

[Pensive]

Forgive me for the long posts, I'm at RDU airport waiting to catch a flight and bored :)

[Wicked]

I ALWAYS admired www.phentermine.com I have a website that with little work can be just as good (maybe a lot of work). How much would it cost to get their kind of ranking. I will PM you the website, I don't want it floating around this forum.

[RxRob]

I ALWAYS admired www.phentermine.com (http://www.phentermine.com/) I have a website that with little work can be just as good (maybe a lot of work). How much would it cost to get their kind of ranking. I will PM you the website, I don't want it floating around this forum.

Does anyone know which program they are using? http://dragonpharmacy.com
You can PM or email me, if you don't want to post.

[Pensive]

I ALWAYS admired www.phentermine.com I have a website that with little work can be just as good (maybe a lot of work). How much would it cost to get their kind of ranking. I will PM you the website, I don't want it floating around this forum.

Well, Phentermine.com of course gets TONS of direct type in traffic and, in turn, gets nice credible inbound links. As you can see below they are 10 years old and have 109 .edu links pointing to them. This alone is their bread and butter links and keeps them on top.

When I get links from .edu's, I literally jump up from my desk and do cartwheels down the hallway of my office. If I get a .gov link, I run around the parking lot naked.

I'm sure the adjacent office hate it when I get a .gov link :)

A little data on Phentermine.com:

PR: 5 | Age: 10 | Links: 7,900 | .edu Links: 109 | .edu Page Links: 111 | .gov Links: 0 | Page Links: 6,990 | del.icio.us: 1 | Technorati: 35 | Alexa: 109,622 | Cached: 55,600 | dmoz: 0 | Bloglines: 0 | dir.yahoo.com: 0

[Wicked]

hehehe....make me a site like that and I would run around naked with you!