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icollect
November 12th, 2003, 05:20 PM
The major Pharmacies waiting in the wings to take over the internet drug market are trying to play the savior of the poor uninformed consumer. They call us drug dealers. Please read closely how they responded to a proposed 10% reduction in medicaid payments and pay special attention who they punished to obtain their goals. This information needs to be fed back into the press and Search Engine management so everyone knows how evil these as*holes are.





SEATTLE, March 11 - Drugstores around the nation are threatening to stop serving Medicaid patients and close or reduce hours if states follow through on plans to cut the amounts paid to pharmacies for filling Medicaid prescriptions.

Faced with budget problems, more than a dozen states are considering reducing their reimbursement rates under Medicaid, the joint federal- state program that provides health care to 36 million poor people.

"This will send a number of pharmacies over the edge," said Ernest Boyd, executive director of the Pharmacists Association in Ohio. "We're not a religion. We're not here for charity purposes. We've got to make a profit or we can't stay open."

When pharmacists fill prescriptions for Medicaid patients, states pay them the cost of the drug plus a flat fee. But health care costs are soaring even as the recession forces states to cut their budgets. Medicaid consumes 20 percent of the average state budget.

Gov. Gary Locke of Washington has proposed the sharpest cut so far, a $71 million reduction to the $361 million budgeted for the current two- year fiscal cycle.

Other states that have made reductions or are considering them include Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Virginia.

The inspector general for the federal Health and Human Services Department nudged states toward the idea last August with a report warning that they were overestimating wholesale drug prices and overpaying pharmacists by more than $1 billion a year. The report recommended cutting pharmacy payments by about 10 percent. Pharmacy groups attacked the study as flawed.

Representatives of CVS and Walgreens, the nation's largest drugstore chains, with a combined 7,700 stores, said they might reduce hours, close stores and stop expansion in states that deeply cut Medicaid pharmacy payments. Rite Aid and Albertsons said they might drop Medicaid completely in those states.

"We're going to have to re-evaluate our participation in Medicaid," said Karen Rugen, a spokeswoman for Rite Aid, which has 3,600 stores in 29 states. "We believe everyone should have access to medical care. It's just hard to do it below your costs."

Independent drugstore owners are even more alarmed. State health administrators, including Doug Porter, the Medicaid director of Washington, say they do not believe that cuts will devastate pharmacists.

Acknowledging that the intent was to cut the druggists' margins "to the bone," Mr. Porter added: "At least in theory, we should not be putting them below cost. I would be shocked to see any serious number of pharmacies not participating."

State officials said pharmacies should instead drive harder bargains with health plans, wholesalers and manufacturers.

Pharmacists want states to find other cost-cutting options. Many states are encouraging doctors to prescribe less expensive generics. States are also trying to negotiate better deals from drug makers.

Consumers and pharmacists have beaten back some proposals to cut Medicaid pharmacy payments. In Illinois, the Rev. Jesse Jackson led a successful campaign to scale back cuts after Walgreens threatened to reduce store hours in poor Chicago neighborhoods. Proposals in New York and Oregon were also defeated. Indiana pharmacists are challenging a fee reduction in court.

DEWIE42
November 12th, 2003, 05:26 PM
icollect.....your posts are always the best , and I know you put your heart and soul in them..dont ever stop being you,one of the nicest posters heresmileys/smiley4.gif

RxRob
November 12th, 2003, 05:35 PM
Well, I actually agree with some statements in that article.


"This will send a number of pharmacies over the edge," said Ernest Boyd, executive director of the Pharmacists Association in Ohio. "We're not a religion. We're not here for charity purposes. We've got to make a profit or we can't stay open."


What's evil about that?






We're going to have to re-evaluate our participation in Medicaid," said Karen Rugen, a spokeswoman for Rite Aid, which has 3,600 stores in 29 states. "We believe everyone should have access to medical care. It's just hard to do it below your costs."


Do you think RiteAid should take a loss on every prescription they fill for a Medicaid recipient?

icollect
November 12th, 2003, 05:44 PM
Not at all, that is not the point. They work on a cost plus basis impossible to lose on that deal. The point of the post was how they achieved their goal by punishing the consumer, in this case the poor and disabled. In no known scenario could I ever say it was to a companies advantages to lock out crippled children because the profit margin was not enough. This is why we're having trouble defining ourselves. In congresses eyes we are an alternative to this swine. At the same time the only thing I hear is about lowballers, margins, and the bottom line. Heads up folks, if you don't make a clear distinction of yourselves from them in a month you won't exist, however they will still be beating up on crippled kids.

Rxtassy
November 12th, 2003, 06:39 PM
I personally own several pharmacies including 2 retail stores and i often lose money or barely break even on medicaid recipients. At least once a year they come in for an audit and rip me a new one by taking money back for prescriptions (the whole thing not just the profit) because i've entered an incorrect day supply or because i picked the wrong doctor with the same name. If i didn't feel bad for the patients i'd drop some of the medicaid plans and make the same money with 35% less aggrevation and i wouldn't have todo internet sales either. We (small pharmacies) really ged kicked by the current system because the reimbursement NOT based on cost plus like the internet.

scottdaman
November 12th, 2003, 06:51 PM
iCollect, your posts absolutely rock. I see your name on a post and that's the first thing I click.


Just so you know. smileys/smiley14.gif

icollect
November 12th, 2003, 07:12 PM
RX, my heart breaks for you, but put to the test you do the right thing. You are the kind of person I can tell that is rewarded in helping the helpless. It's companies like yours we all need to support. I'm so proud when I hear one of the little guys that don't just talk, but puts their ass on the line everyday, risking it all to do the right thing. You are what makes this country great. I pray that you are deeply rewarded in this life, I know for a fact you will see paradise in the next.

icollect
November 12th, 2003, 07:15 PM
Thanks Scott, It makes me tick to rattle the big boys. They're like the bullies at school. They see you with lunch money and they want to take it. They see someone without lunch money, they despise them.