af. director-controls-U.S.resadent, how?

[gman]

Here's my question put alittle clearer: If you are a residence of the U.S. and you are promoting "controled substance" from overseas (be it a affiliate or affiliate director, like laura for example), how does the FDA's "don't sell controled substances online" effect you "legally"? Are you in the clear becousethe company isnot over here(US)? Does the DEA- FDA not have the authority to check the accounting books from overseas? If there "not" able to check there books then why id everyone worry about the FDA when they could just change there links to affiliate programs ran overseas? Basically, I want to know why laura is so calm (and reassuring of her affiliates) that they will continue to sell the controled stuff when she herself is a U.S. residence? I know that they have IHC based out of the bahammas but, is it still a u.s. company that had to play by u.s. rules(can the feds come kick your door in and take all the servers and books, ext.?


gman.

[phalaris]

If you are too worried then don't promote the imported meds or any meds, promote books from Amazon.com instead. They give solid 25 cents commission/sale.


You don't need to worry about IHC or its employees as they are grown up people capable to look after themselves.


Johny cochron is from EVA and like rest of the EVA's guys on this forum (Doug/rxaffiliate.com etc.) he also chickened out.


Sorry I can't understand most of what you wrote but hope it helps.

[phalaris]

Oh gman, you changed your first post almost completely, this time its in the english I can understand. smileys/smiley16.gif

[gman]

lol, yea, sometimes you write and the words just don't come out the way you wanted them too.smileys/smiley17.gif

[redex]

I believe if your feet are on US soil then you are subject to US laws. Regardless of where meds come from, you still have to abide by the laws of this country if you are here. I would never consider importing or affiliate with an OP importing any meds. Most are controlled/prohibited, thus under DEA scrutiny, the rest are generic knockoffs or those not apporoved by the FDA so they will come down on you. Same thing if you continue to use OPs that sell phentermine. It is already a proven fact that this is illegal. Why chance losing everything you have worked for. Good money is worthless if it is taken away because you are accused of drug trafficking. Keep it above board and you will not have to worry. (DAMN,I HOPE THAT LAST SENTENCE IS TRUE) Knowledge and intent is all that is necessary to convict.

[kaylowe]

Well said, Redex. I actually believe that such pharmacies are what brought the heat on - the ones that allow you to order 1000 Lortab or Oxycontin from Thailand or whatever. Not us legit US pharmacies.


And the DEA can seize the shipment for certain. You could pay for drugs that they never receive. And there is no way to recover money from what I understand.


Kay

[Laura]

IHC is not based out of the Bahamas. I along, with our entire office staff, programmers, customer service and our servers are located in Miami, FL. You are welcome to stop by if your ever in the neighborhood, just knock twice on the garage door smileys/smiley17.gifI think you are confusingall of IHC with Fulfillment Centers, one of the pharmacies we workwith in the Bahamas.


Gman, you posted a very good question. Unfortunately, to get into all of the legalities is a very complex answer. I could be here for hours writing about customs lawsandwhat the DEA regulates and does not.I can remain calm becuase I havedirect communication and understanding ofour doctors thoughs, pharmacies positions, and our attorney's advice on how we are to proceed. I am very aware of what is goin on, but moreimportantly I know why it is happening, andI will not comment on the actions of other companies. Though, I don't understand why you choose to post this underIHC whenthere are still severalother companies offering controlleds?


"Well said, Redex. I actually believe that such pharmacies are what brought the heat on - the ones that allow you to order 1000 Lortab or Oxycontin from Thailand or whatever. Not us legit US pharmacies."


Fulfillment Centers has never offered Oxycontin or Lortab. They don't even have controlled meds on their shelves and we are not sure if they ever will. There are many legit pharmacies outside of the US that mind their P's and Q's and don't engage in such activity.

[kaylowe]

Laura, I apologize for the misunderstanding; I was not referring to IHS. I was referring to those pharmacies that do offer such things as Lortab, Oxy, whatever, that are operating from Thailand, Mexico, or wherever. That is where people are getting quantities of drugs for abusers. College kids can order big quantities of some of these drugs from sleazy operators. And it is THOSE operators that have brought the heat on. We get the heat by association. I was not referring to your specific operation at all. I realize that you try to stay above board.


Kay

[Laura]

It wasn't taken perosnally smileys/smiley4.gifI just don't want there to be any confusion. I realize that these are trying times for everyone.

[gman]

O.K. laura, let me put it this way... What country are you shipping the "controled" stuff from? If its all here (in the U.S.) then how do you figure that we (affiliates) here in the U.S. can still sell that without being held lieable and how do "YOU" think that you are somehow not aiding an abedding in the sale of controled substahts to people here in the U.S. (from all the controled stuff)?


Hell i'dd like to sell it all with you but, I just don't see a way I won't be held lieable living here in the u.s.smileys/smiley19.gif

[phalaris]

Hey gman,


By abedding you mean abetting? correct? smileys/smiley2.gif

[gman]

everyone in here knows what i meansmileys/smiley2.gif

[redex]

Hell i'dd like to sell it all with you but, I just don't see a way I won't be held lieable living here in the u.s.smileys/smiley19.gif


Try this test:


Doyou think it might be illegal or you could be held accountable?
Are you actively marketing meds that are on the DEA controlled list?


If you answered yes to either of thesequestions, don't sell it!
If you answered yes to both questions, don't be stupid.


Emanuel and Vincesold for a reason. They cannot legally sell det pills and sleeping pills. Their profits are gone. They both would prefer to stay out of jail. So would I.