Link exchange thing of the past?!

[JayB]

Anyone been a victim of the new Google results? I just sold a non-OP-related site to an attorney on Tuesday for a nice chunk of change. It was ranked #8 for a good one word kw and got their because of exchanging quality links (anda fewgood one way links). Now it's gone. Not 3rd or 4th page gone but outtasight gone. smileys/smiley19.gif

[King_Phen]

It's not recips, it's an anchor text filter. A little early, but thats what i see.

[Anni]

It's not recips, it's an anchor text filter. A little early, but thats what i see.


Yep, got me too smileys/smiley6.gif


Any idea if it's internal/external or both?

[Affiliate]

I noticed some drastic changes in rankings today. A google dance after many months without one??? I had a site ranking #11 for a decent term yesterday for the first time and now it's gone.

[rxmary]

hmm, very interesting to wake to this today. I haven't had time to really look at what's happened, anyone want to speculate on what's now most important to google for ranking purposes?

[Affiliate]

hmm, very interesting to wake to this today. I haven't had time to really look at what's happened, anyone want to speculate on what's now most important to google for ranking purposes?





blog spamming smileys/smiley6.gif


I'm seeing site rank right now that I haven't seen ranking in months. Also, the sites with tons of link exchanges are still ranking well. I think buying text links or oneway links are worth even less now. Google decreased the value of this during the last major algo change. That's what I think.

[rxmary]

I haven't even had my first cup of coffee yet, but I'd say that keyword linking text isn't as important and also yes the paid for links are devalued. Anchor text maybe....still looking around. I need to figure this out quick or I'm screwed so will appreciate any input anyone has.

[andrew13]

blog is a HISTORY also ... at least for most of sites. most first positions are some strange sites to me.


for me results noware something really strange ... I don't know why some sites are on good positions and some I'm unable to find at all :(


looks like it is semi update ... or they again made dramatic changes in algo smileys/smiley5.gif


I have mentioned that sites which has good positions - has the SAME good positions for combinations and even other keywords (phen sites good rank for viagra, and reverse, just look at top 100 results - you'll see nearly the same sites for different keywords ...).

[scottdaman]

More or less old results. Never panic on an overnight change. Give it a few before you change anything.


BTW, effects me too... except for my OLD sites. Brand new sites (Freshbot) are also listed.

[Affiliate]

Maybe google now likes on the page factors more. Anyshaved monkey (copyright RxRob)can get 1000 links and rank in the top. Ahh... WTF do I know!


Anyone have a password to webmasterworld? What are they saying over there?

[RxRob]

lol smileys/smiley4.gif

[Affiliate]

Check this out... wtf! 1 - 10 for tenuate is all EVA doug templates.


http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8 (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=tenuate) &oe=UTF-8&q=tenuate

[rxmary]

now that's messed up

[andrew13]

affiliate, you can find these sites for nearly any keywords and on extremely good positions ... this is what scares me :(

[phalaris]

blog is a HISTORY also ... at least for most of sites. most first positions are some strange sites to me.


for me results noware something really strange


Are you kidding me? You own 50% of the top 10 listings for Viagra and Phentermine and you are saying "first positions are some strange sites".

[andrew13]

phalaris -google left only 1 mys site in top 10 for viagra! (btw- I had 2 sites before ;) )


so you again miss me with someone else.

[Affiliate]

phalaris, I think andrew is using a scare tactic so others don't spam blogs. It still works and probably will until google gets a handle on it.

[andrew13]

if you track all my messages ... I NEVER lie, so stop you f*** posts smileys/smiley16.gif

[Affiliate]

I know what google wants! Meta tags are back baby!Also, leaveoff your <title> tags becausethey have no value anymore. j/k smileys/smiley8.gif

[rxmary]

smileys/smiley8.gifYOU SO FUNNY

[rxmary]

Affiliate: this is the jist of WMW posts:


there are major shifts taking place in the SERP's right now. It appears to be a resurgence of the old Dance that was virtually lost last spring. Its another bouncy ride, we'll see what happens in the end.

[Affiliate]

Thanks rxmary! I guess we'll just have to wait it out. I really hope MSN launches their own search engine. Google sucks!

[mmarulkamm]

from about 7 8 factors


that i have read in article for google ranking


links was the last


:)

[redex]

Check this out... wtf! 1 - 10 for tenuate is all EVA doug templates.


http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8 &oe=UTF-8&q=tenuate (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=tenuate)





Those may be EVA Doug's templates but the meds and cart checkout are MyRxBiz. smileys/smiley5.gif

[rxmary]

Well since Doug now has no affiliation with EVA as he sold to someone else, is this a problem (using the templates with other programs) ???


Now, back on topic - It looks to me like all my incoming links one way and reciprocated are devalued.

[redex]

Well since Doug now has no affiliation with EVA as he sold to someone else, .....


Gee, I missed that announcement, could you please re-post.

[rxmary]

maybe I misread the post, but I thought Doug sold to someone else.


Ooops, Eva sold Sorry! misread the post, I never got the email myself.

[phalaris]

I have spent last many hours looking for clues to what happened. I think


1. Sites with multiple links (7+ links) from any other sitehave appear to have gone down.That is also why sites that buy links from known link sellers have gone down.


2. Meta tags are back like they used to be in 1997.


3. Links from blogs and guestbooks are still working.


4. On-page factors like keyword density (along with meta tags) are now more important than ever. That is why those using cloaking are doing better than the most. 10 out oftop 30 for Ambien appear to be usingcloaking and 9 out of top 10 for tenuate appear to be using cloaking.


5. Value of 1-to-1 reciprocal links have gone up while value of one way links (mostly paid for links for affiliate sites) has gone down significantly.


Anyone else see anything different?

[scottdaman]

If only people would learn the first lesson in SEO. Write your pages like you would for a customer. Not an engine. Sure, you can optimize, but don't overdo it.


Other than that, if you look and review my first post in this thread, it's still correct. I visited 3 SEO forums and came to that conclusion. It is old results. Amazon, being an old company, is ranking high like they did way back.


This type of shifting thing happens in google at least 4 times a year. Just keep writing new pages, don't worry about the old ones (the listings come and go) and you'll be fine.


Some of my sites have dropped off google completely that are only a year old. Others that have been online for years still rank the way they did before this shift.


Again, give it time to reorganize with this seemingly new algo. You may end up ranking better than ever. smileys/smiley17.gif

[King_Phen]

>I visited 3 SEO forums and came to that conclusion.<


I visited the serps and came to a different conclusion.. This isn't about "old" or "new." It's a good old fashionedalgo tweak. The med serps are being dominated by blog and guest bookspammers. Smart ones that know just how far to push and mix up the right anchor text.

[phalaris]

Just keep writing new pages, don't worry about the old ones (the listings come and go) and you'll be fine.


You have any top 10 listing for Viagra or Phentermine? What you are saying works for keywords that return 2000 results but not for keywords that return 15 million results.

[scottdaman]

I focus mostly on the ignored drugs. Non controlled. I'm making a killing doing it and it is a lot less work as you know.


Basically, we just need to wait a few more days folks. Once the google update is complete with all of the data, you will have a better idea as to what to do.


Again, don't make any drastic changes. That is the #1 mistake when something like this happens. Webmasters panic and make huge mistakes.


My traffic is way down. What I do when I'm in panic mode is make more sites. Usually, what happens is the old sites come back and my new sites get indexed. Means more money. smileys/smiley17.gif


Always try to see some positive. That's how I keep my good health.

[Affiliate]

Google is F-d up. I have a brand new site with 3reciprocal links ranking better than any of my other sites. Hmmmmm... on the page optimization... smileys/smiley3.gif

[rxmary]

word at WMW is that its not done yet, that all backlinks aren't counted yet. Give it another 24 hrs.

[rxmary]

What I am seeing this far is that straight up link exchanges aren't really hurting, as long as they are in small numbers. Link farms and automated link directories are getting bashed by this update.


link text/anchor text isn't as powerful as it was and definately if you have pages named "links.html", "anywordlinks.html", or any other variation,i'd change them straight away.

[Affiliate]

rxmary,


pillhunt and phentermine.vgare rankings all over the place and they have very large link directories.

[andrew13]

I don't think that large link directories are bad ...


I have several sites with big link directories, ranked very well.
I think:


1) The data are OLD on most searches, just as it was in may update ... Some my new sites are not in index, but was in index prior to it.


2) The algo is defenetely changes .... but not 100% sure how(titles + anchor seems to have no significant influence), probably now it does matter the content of the page, which links to you.


I would wait for 2-3 days more and then evaluate again. Now it is too ealry to tell anything ...

[phalaris]

Affiliate,


You are partly correct about pillhunt. They have a (purchased) PR9 link too.


While Phentermine.vg, phentermine.gs, phentermine.ms are nothing but guestbook spam.


Have a good look at:


http://www.alltheweb.com/search?_sb_lang=pref&cs=utf-8&a (http://www.alltheweb.com/search?_sb_lang=pref&cs=utf-8&cat=web&q=link.all%3Awww.phentermine.vg+-site%3Aphentermine.vg&avkw=fogg&o=50) mp;cat=web&q=link.all%3Awww.phentermine.vg+-site%3Aphent ermine.vg&avkw=fogg&o=50


and


http://www.alltheweb.com/search?_sb_lang=pref&cs=utf-8&a (http://www.alltheweb.com/search?_sb_lang=pref&cs=utf-8&cat=web&q=link.all%3Awww.phentermine.ms+-site%3Aphentermine.ms&avkw=fogg&o=80) mp;cat=web&q=link.all%3Awww.phentermine.ms+-site%3Aphent ermine.ms&avkw=fogg&o=80


and


http://www.alltheweb.com/search?_sb_lang=pref&cs=utf-8&a (http://www.alltheweb.com/search?_sb_lang=pref&cs=utf-8&cat=web&q=link.all%3Awww.phentermine.gs+-site%3Aphentermine.gs&avkw=fogg&o=140) mp;cat=web&q=link.all%3Awww.phentermine.gs+-site%3Aphent ermine.gs&avkw=fogg&o=140

[phalaris]

It looks like purchased links fom some sites are junk while purchased links from some other sites are working fine and it is not due to old data. These SERPs are here to stay like this for 3-4 weeks with minor changes here and there. It is time to figure out new rules of the game NOW because overture has deleted most of my ads and now I'm without orders.


I'll change theURLs of my link pages from link11.html to online-pharmacy.html etc. and I'll stop using linksmanager.com on my sites from now on becausemy sites with linksmanager.com have taken the biggest beating.

[Affiliate]

Ahh sh*t... the one site I have linksmanager on got killed also. Can anyone else with linkmanager confirm?

[rxmary]

yep, that was the basis of that statement. All sites I use linksmanager got nailed.

[andrew13]

it becomes interesting.


I also have set of web sites, which use other automated software to exchange links ... it is absolutely not known and after purchase was upgraded buy us. And these sites are present in index, but have VERY bad positions, much worse them before the update ... looks like google begins to deal with "automated" links exchnange systems somehow.

[scottdaman]

Ok, question. Do any of you know if you've LINKED to a linksmanager site if you get penalized? Ouch. I can't imagine if you do because as a webmaster, you cannot control an outbound link from not having a link automation system.


I've always took the warnings regarding these automation link systems as serious and never used them. I've seen warnings on WMW and other SEO forums. These systems include LinksManager, Zeus, etc.


Another question, what if you all took all of your linkspages generated from LinksManager and switched them to static removing the LinksManager buttons. Anyone think this would help you? This really sucks for all of you that are affected. smileys/smiley6.gif


Obviously, I'd change the link structure to tell google's spider you've cleaned house. Maybe one to two months those sites would bounce back on top.

[Affiliate]

I've sent an email to google so hopefully we can find out of linksmanager sites are being penalized! I hate rumors! smileys/smiley17.gif

[phalaris]

Keep us updated if and when you hear from google. BTW they do answer many of the emails.

[Affiliate]

Google answered an email I sent them a few months ago within hours. I'm sure it will take a while now because of the update.

[scottdaman]

Affiliate, Bravo! Bravo!! smileys/smiley32.gif


Sorry, my wife made me go to Phantom of the Opera last weeksmileys/smiley14.gif

[rxcdn]

I can't believe how well those cloaked sites are sticking. They have over 50% of the page 1 (and 2) listings for ambien, didrex, adpiex, tenuate, etc.

I bet this was their best weekend EVER!

If you check out the ugly, uncloaked version of the pages, it appears the network generates 100% of its own link pop. crosslinked with porn and with varying anchor text and 100% machine generated pages.

Can you imagine how easy it would be to dominate some less-competitive industries if this algo sticks for a few months. I could have 100,000 pages up by tonight. smileys/smiley2.gif

[redex]

Those guys have been there at least since August that I can remember.

[phalaris]

I agree that cloaked sites are doing extremely well. They are not generating 100% of their own link pop but they have purchased links from sites that are selling links for the first time. Look at the bottom of http://www.yourdictionary.com/ (http://www.yourdictionary.com/)and you will find their real source of PR.


You can put 100k pages online in2-3 hours but basic problem is finding PR8 sites that are willing to sell links to you and if the sites selling links are well known link sellers like those from linkadage.comthen those linksare worth no more thansnake oil.

[phalaris]

If you check out the ugly, uncloaked version of the pages, it appears the network generates 100% of its own link pop.


Can you tell me where are you seeing this uncloaked version of the pages? There is no google cache with them (tell-tale sign of cloaking). I just want to see what kind of on-page factors they have used and then I'll go out on rampage with blog spam for cloaked sites. smileys/smiley1.gif

[rxcdn]

Man, you're right phalaris. I got tangled up in their web of webs (of webs, of webs...) and got excited and just saw what I wanted to see. smileys/smiley6.gif

[phalaris]

Never mind. I found that. These sites are owned by SEO Inc. but they are rookies as far as cloaking is concerned.

[redex]

Are they the ones using the java cloak????

[Affiliate]

How do you see the cloked pages? There used to be a cloak checking tool for dmoz editors but it doesn't work anymore. A so called ethical SEO company cloaking! Shame on them!

[phalaris]

Who told you that they are an ethical SEO company?

[rxcdn]

If it's seo inc?? then on their home page they state they are ethical.

PS I want their "executive package" They optimize the meta tags and even make a sitemap, otherwise known as "spider-food". LOL!

[redex]

I use http://samspade.org/t/safe

[phalaris]

From the decloaked content:


"You can conveniently and comfortably talk with our
Doctors and Pharmacists using the internet. You'll have your prescriptions written and
your medications prescribed quickly and easily from the comfort of your computer. You'll
save valuable time because you won't have to wait in a Doctor's office to be seen. You'll
stay healthier because you won't be exposed to other patients who may possibly be
contagious."


smileys/smiley4.gifNow icollect has a new reason why OPs should survive.

[rxmary]

It is a very valid reason to stay away from dr. offices, everytime I take my kids in for check-ups or shots, they get sick!

[aek1]

my favourite search so far is phendimetrazine. Whoever owns those sites must be laughing.

[rxmary]

smileys/smiley3.gif

[phalaris]

Phendimetrazine, tenuate, ambien, valtrex, diflucan, bontril, meridia, renova, zyban, buspar etc. that bunch of 10-12 sites is everywhere. That SEO firm most likely will make at least 1-2 million dollars this month.

[Greg]

Phendimetrazine, tenuate, ambien, valtrex, diflucan, bontril, meridia, renova, zyban, buspar etc. that bunch of 10-12 sites is everywhere. That SEO firm most likely will make at least 1-2 million dollars this month.
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>If only we knew to create directories for all the drugs before this started. smileys/smiley5.gif</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>

[krl]

The double dash is really popular these days. I noticed some other double dash sites hoping for type-ins. For example....


e--scripts-md.com
e-scripts--md.com (not even an http://www.e-script-md.com (http://www.e-script-md.com)affiliate)

[EPSRX]

Phentermine.ms is listed on 7,258 pages. How did he/she do that...I am new to all this spam talk...

[rxmary]

Well, my top ranking sites have all but vanished from Google. smileys/smiley5.gif oh well!


I'm still getting decent order though and not reorders either, so I suspect searchers are actually using other search engines! smileys/smiley17.gif

[rxmary]

OK, now really - I want to know how farts.com beat me out on the term "Diet Pills" come on smileys/smiley2.gif


Its on page three but thats better than mine that have disappeared completely.

[Buzz]

I just did a search for generic viagra, and at #8 was www.xenical.com (http://www.xenical.com)


What a joke.


lol.

[rxmary]

smileys/smiley6.gif oh well, I've decided to leave my sites as is because within a month or so the algo will change again. I'm getting good traffic from MSN and Alta Vista (can you believe that!)

[phalaris]

www-va.google.com has new set of backlinks. It explains the rankings of a few sites that have pushed me down but that too doesn't explain xenical.com appearing in SERP for generic viagra.


Anyone noticed that home page of phentermine.vg is appearing in top 30 for many times?

[phalaris]

I'm getting good traffic from MSN and Alta Vista (can you believe that!)


Is altavista back from grave? Are they PFI listingsin inktomi and altavista or are they free listings?

[rxmary]

actually they are free listings coming up for where my sites were the last three months or so on Google. They are evidentally using an algo similar to what the big G's been using since summer.

[andrew13]

Anyone noticed that home page of phentermine.vg is appearing in top 30 for many times?





phentermine.vg is guestbook/blog/... spammer ... so of course he has his page in first.


Now I think it is still work, but NOT as good as before ... you can reach only ~#10 - 20for viag, phen searches if you use it + it will be worse soon, I think.

[mmarulkamm]

i thing phetermine.vg is onlned by jason bennet


and he won't use guestbook or blog spamming to rise his rank

[andrew13]

i thing phetermine.vg is onlned by jason bennet





this is NOT Jason's web site. Read another thread about this site ... there is long one ;)

[vblogman]

Are you guys for or against blog spamming?


think the effects are bad in the long run?

[scottdaman]

Refer to the thread you started.

[JayB]

Yep, that's not my site.

[JayB]

Just found this:


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8 (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;q=tenuate) &amp;q=tenuate


Check out the cached version of #3

[Affiliate]

I'm thinking about ordering the "pull my finger" santa http://www.fartmart.com/display.asp?sku=56LOL


Back on topic: Thecurrent google results are the worst and most unrelevant I have ever seen.What a f**king mess! smileys/smiley11.gif

[redex]

I am getting the fart torch lighter.

[JayB]

Reminds me of a great novel I once read.....Wait- or was that the movieDumb and Dumber...


Affiliate- Look at it like this- just about every keyword out there is a steal right now. Seize the moment. E-mail me and I'll tell you about a top-secret "blogfiller-outer-generator" that can get you GUARANTEED top rankings! Overnight!


Only $39.95
individual results may vary

[andrew13]

for me personally the results are good ;) but in general - agree they are bad and seems to be "intermediate" ... maybe they will slow convert to good in a month or so and we get ideas of the new algo then ?

[scottdaman]

Right now, try not to match the title tag with incoming links from other sites. That's all I can see so far. Maybe others have seen something else. Still testing though. It will take weeks to sort this thing out. Just in time for google to change it again! http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/smileys/smiley11.gif

[Jaanis]

AWFUL, AWFUL, AWFUL results, worst ever since 1998

[Capt_Ron]

Hi


This thread says Google have developed a filter for 'big money' keyword phrases that penalises over optimisation of sites with the same keyword phrase in title, tagsand text.


Worth a read. smileys/smiley2.gif


http://www.searchguild.com/tpage4574-0.html


Frank

[andrew13]

Hi


This thread says Google have developed a filter for 'big money' keyword phrases that penalises over optimisation of sites with the same keyword phrase in title, tagsand text.


Worth a read. smileys/smiley2.gif


http://www.searchguild.com/tpage4574-0.html


Frank





It is interesting, but I searched "viagra" and "viagra -bibibibibibi" and got completely different results ... I'm not sure what are results for "viagra -bibibibibibi" - they just seems to be unfiltered - is it true ?

[Affiliate]

I try not to read the forums too much regarding Google theories. Stick to what the experts are saying. If you read too many post, you'll start believing that crap. I don't know how some people come us with these theories. Everyone becomes a forensic scientist afterthe google update.I haven't read one good theory yet!


"If you fart while searching, you get the results from before last Augusts update" Comon now! I feel really bad for all the SEOs out there. Their client's must be driving them nuts!

[phalaris]

Stick to what the experts are saying.


So what is your action plan? Business as usual and expecting a rollback/improvement in January?

[Affiliate]

I'm going to continue doing what has always worked for me. I think we all just have to wait a few weeks to see what happens. Although, as more time passes it seems like googleis sticking with these results.IMO using more than one phrasefor yourinbound linkscan't hurt.In the pastif you wanted to rank for "cheap viagra" you just had to getasmany pplto link to you using"cheap viagra" in the anchortext.I'm going to mix it up... "Cheap Viagra at DomainName.com","DomainName.com - Cheap Viagra", "Buy Cheap Viagraat DomainName", etc....


That's my 2 cents.

[andrew13]

I'm going to mix it up... "Cheap Viagra at DomainName.com","DomainName.com - Cheap Viagra", "Buy Cheap Viagraat DomainName", etc....


That's my 2 cents.





I'm trying to do the same now + deoptimize "overoptimized" sites ... it could help also but no guarantee - we'll see ...

[rxcdn]

You see, even though the SERPS really do suck, the general public will hardly notice. They are often dumber than we think and google is laughing all the way to the bank.

For instance, my gf was researching her psych paper ALL weekend on google, I asked her if she had a hard time finding stuff and she said no.

Then, I asked her to go to google and try to find some diet pills...lol. smileys/smiley1.gif

Anyways, she types in "diet pills" and points to the "first entry on the chart." She meant the first premium adword "Buy Cheap Diet Pills"

I said to pick another one, and she points to "all the little boxes that say buy diet pills"

Turns out, she thinks that "Sponsored Links" means places you can buy from "because they always have prices". And the regular google results are for information. Because "when she does research for school, there are never any little boxes."

Man, this is sad. She is a smart girl, just not computer savy.

[andrew13]

My opinion also that this update is done to move ADWords, and it IS successfull from this point of view.


Example is simple. On my web siteI targeted {City} Hotels combination and was rank


#1 for {City} Hotels


#43 for {City}


Now ....


#11 for {City} Hotels


# 23 for {City}


Sogoogletry tofilter commercial results in commercial searches (City is non commercial search, City hotels IS commercial search ...) and try to remove them .... to make non-commercial results first and so encourage users to buy from green boxes.

[phalaris]

Sogoogletry tofilter commercial results in commercial searches (City is non commercial search, City hotels IS commercial search ...) and try to remove them .... to make non-commercial results first and so encourage users to buy from green boxes.





If this is correct (and it looks like correct) then expect more commercial websites to be filtered out in next few updates.

[rxcdn]

If google starts filtering overoptimized commercial sites, you just know that some people will start to underoptimize and take it to extremes.

Hopefully, these sites will be nowhere to be found in av, ink, msn's new engine, etc. which means high rankings for the ones who stuck it out. (If and when yahoo switches)

[phalaris]

&gt;&gt;&gt;"If and when yahoo switches"


It is not a question of if, it is a question of when they will switch? I hope that switch will happen in January and current google update is a preparation for that.


General public will never notice the garbage inSERPs but professional webmasters will. If professional webmasters notice the garbage so will media. Remember who made google what it is today, it was word of mouth from technically sophisticated people and free PR from media. Now same group of people like those on webmasterworld and media like New York Timesare painting negative image of google. So bad word of mouth will also spread very fast like it did for altavista after its similar update in late 1999 after which altavista became an also run dotcom.

[Jaanis]

Hi


This thread says Google have developed a filter for 'big money' keyword phrases that penalises over optimisation of sites with the same keyword phrase in title, tagsand text.


Worth a read. smileys/smiley2.gif


http://www.searchguild.com/tpage4574-0.html


Frank





It is interesting, but I searched "viagra" and "viagra -bibibibibibi" and got completely different results ... I'm not sure what are results for "viagra -bibibibibibi" - they just seems to be unfiltered - is it true ?





You get those same type of "un-filtered" results when you search for generic viagra and generic-viagra with a hyphen.

[Affiliate]

GoogleGuy makes some interesting posts in this thread http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/18388-1-15.htm


To me it seems like general searches are going to pull up general results. He uses a few examples if you read the thread. Ranking for one word terms seems like it's going to be almost impossible.


Google is assuming users are a lot more savvy than they actually are. EX: A normal (dumb ass) user is going to just search for "home alarm" if they want to have a home alarm system installed. The more savvy user is going to search for "home alarm installation" or "home alarm installation in new jersey". Check the results for "home alarm". It returns absolute garbage.

[nikblack]

Hi,



I am new to some of the terminology here, and would like some
definitions. What do you mean by 'cloacking' or 'cloacked sites' as
well as 'anchor text'.



First post, as you can see in my profile.



Cheers.

[nikblack]

wow - just realised how old this thread is, oops!