View Full Version : Discouraged! Is it too competitive?
heatherhab
October 9th, 2003, 12:45 PM
I need advice from all of you experienced ones!( I understand you cannot give away secrets so be easy on me! Just let me know if I have any chance at this!) As a serious newbie, do I have a chance in h--l ranking in any of the search engines for competitive keywords?
I have spent so much time trying to SEO however I don't have any results at all. I'm using Webposition Gold?! Should I just give up and just focus on PPC's or try to reoptimize my pages using less competitive niche keywords? Maybe I'm not patient enough-I've only been trying this out for a few months(however 18 hours a day, every day at my computer with my poor kids screaming for attention in the background!!)smileys/smiley19.gifAnything so I don't have to put them in daycare! Thanks for all of your advice-I don't want to be a millionaire, just make enough so I can stay home!
janet
October 9th, 2003, 01:12 PM
it is a competetive market, I would suggest you try to start from a less competative one.
I also found that if you concentrate on doing SEO for non-google SE, there is less competition.
here is a tip for you, take a look at http://www.crawler-alert.com, it is aFREE service which automatecly send you an email notification whenever a search engine crawler crawl you site, see which one does and see how competative you can get there
hope this helps
Janet
redex
October 9th, 2003, 08:17 PM
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heatherhab, you answered your own question. Three months in SEO is like an hour out of your 18 hour day. Some SE's may just be getting around to indexing your sites. Keep at it and come back in three more months and tell us all about your success. I too spend a lot of time at my computer and I have been doing this for a while. It is still a 14 hour day to keep the wheels spinning. Last month was my first month without growth. I was devastated. Sales were down 10% over August instead of the steady increase I had become accustomed to. So now Iwork atit with greater fervor. You may never get to spend the whole day with your kids, but you could afford to hire a nanny/housekeeper http://www.rxaffiliateforum.com/smileys/smiley4.gif Hang in there you just started down the road to success.
phalaris
October 9th, 2003, 08:32 PM
Here is my advice. I started with only 1 OP site and spent good 3 months getting links and doing modifications before I managed to enter page-1 of google for 1 med and make sales. May be you are trying to do too much at the same time. Are you working on 10-20 sitesright now with a target to get them all on page-1 of google in one go? I asked this because Iget link exchange requests everyday withstarting lineas "We have the following72 sites all related to your site xyz.com and we are interested in link exchange..."
I know that for factnot even 1 of those 72 sites are going to appear on page-1 of google for the keyword they are targeting in next 6 months.Select 1-2 meds, make sites targeting those 1-2 medsand concentrate on those 1-2 sites only. Once those 1-2sites are where you want them to be and money starts coming in then you can work on more sites because money coming into bank makes hard work look easier.
Also stop using webpositiongold and all such softwares because they are more trouble than help.
I know many people here rely on PPC traffic for most of their earnings but most people can't do that if you are just starting out because you need big budget for that and also margins are under pressure due to rising declines, rising PPC cost and lowballers.
Shark Attack
October 9th, 2003, 09:10 PM
You can always learn something new at this great forum, I personally never knew about http://www.crawler-alert.com, so I'm off to check it out.
Great advice Phalaris, agree with all that you say
Heather- Put your efforts into one or more sites that focus in one or two medications. Once you have some earnings, things will definitely get easier. I've been in this business for quite a few years and eventually you do get to the point where you have reinvest your profits into the business. Liek they say moneny makes money. Keep at it and give some feedback in 3 months time. Good Luck
gmoney
October 9th, 2003, 09:26 PM
In this "affilate game, there is only one way (IMHO) to make money at it and that would be to "do like the top ten do"! Check any serrch term in google and look at what they are doing and you do the same. "Thats" where you need to be spending your (seo research time at) if you want make any money at this.
gmoney.
heatherhab
October 10th, 2003, 12:27 AM
Thanks for all of the great advice, Shark Attack, Phalaris, Janet, & RedX! Spiders had me baffled so thank you Janet for the link.
One more question, can i SEO focusing a site on one med, but still offer other meds on the same site or will that dilute my site to the search engines?
Thanks again & I will keep at it!
Heather
phalaris
October 10th, 2003, 02:24 AM
Having many meds on one site but focusing on one is what mostwebsites do. Just check top 10 for Viagra or Phentermine on google and you will find that a vast majority of websites have many meds on one site but they have gone out to get links for only one page, which means they are focusing on only one product per site. Any sale made from the pages that are there but are not being actively promoted is an additional bonus.
popcorn
October 10th, 2003, 04:50 AM
Here is a little tool from Darrin Ward that let's you know when the most popular search engines spyder your site. You do have to know a little about installing CGI on your web site, but that being said, it is very simple.
Basicly you upload the pgm files to your cgi bin and chmod the permissions to 755. Then placesome code on each page that you want to capture information. To check your results, just type in the url of the admin program and it will list what spyders have visited your site.
It can be download from here:
http://www.darrinward.com/spydertrax.zip
If you have problems with it you can PM me.
Popcorn
MedsDirect
October 10th, 2003, 01:31 PM
Google actually scans for patterns imput by software like webpositiongold and penalizes for it. I would suggest doing your SEO by hand if you are able.
From Googles Guidlines athttp://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html :
"Don't use unauthorized computer programs to submit pages, check rankings, etc. Such programs consume computing resources and violate our terms of service. Google does not recommend the use of products such as WebPosition GoldT that send automatic or programmatic queries to Google."
Just my 2 cents, not meant to get on anyone that uses them :)
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